Does this build work?

Jerry_61 · Nov 13, 2016

Hello. I have never built a computer nor do I know how to but it's always been something I've wanted to do. So the current build I'm looking at is something like this. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wsHZFd
I'm planning to get the parts I can on sale since black friday and cyber monday is soon. Btw which would be better to buy parts, black friday or cyber monday? So I was also wondering if you guys know any good tutorials I can read to help me build my first desktop. Also I want to overclock the processor and the graphics card on this build so a tutorial for that would also be appreciated. Another quick question is that is all of this compatible together? I know you need a certain motherboard for overclocking and such.

edit: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BwyzkT
So I did change the monitor to the acer 144Hz one because I did read it's really noticable from 60Hz to 144Hz. Also changed the case to the one you recommended because I was aware of my case being expensive for no reason. Changed the ram to Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 2666 because on the newegg ad for black friday it's supposed to drop to $79. The psu is also supposed to drop to around $55 on the week of Thanksgiving also on newegg. I kept the the processor and motherboard because I do want to overclock. Also is it possible to overclock the gpu with this setup? I read lots on getting a cooler which is already added on the list if I want to overclock. The cooler is also dropping to $20 on newegg. Oh also still looking for an answer of which is better for parts, black friday or cyber monday.

edit: I just wanted to overclock to get the most out of the machine. Also I read that the MSI card runs a lot cooler than the Gigabyte versions. Would it be worth it to get the MSI one for cooling or the Gigabyte one saving like $20. Oh forgot to mention thanks for the Kinguin reference. I didn't really want to spend a hundred on the operating system. Also I don't plan on using that much storage and when I do it'll already be the time that I am thinking of getting one. As for now, I don't use that much space as I'm not going to store plenty of things on it as I already have a laptop to do such things.

CTurbo · Nov 13, 2016

More RAM, better psu, better monitor

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer GN246HL 24.0" 144Hz Monitor ($188.83 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate 2016 Wired Standard Keyboard ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1190.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-13 22:28 EST-0500

gumbob3 · Nov 13, 2016

First Off, This Newegg PC building series is AMAZING, and very in depth for absolute beginners. Can't recommend it enough! (Links below). As for your build, it looks pretty good! CPU is unlocked and overclockable, motherboard allows overclocking, high wattage psu, aftermarket cooler.... Good to Overclock!! Only downside I can see is that you won't have a lot of storage for photos, videos, large files. If you plan on having these things then buy a 1tb Western Digital Blue HDD for about $50. Keep the SSD because it is VERY fast and good for OS and main applications. Everything should be compatible. Finally, you can save about $60! Kinguin sells LEGITIMATE, working Window 10 keys for about $25 - $30. The Kinguin buyer protection will refund you if the key doesn't work. Good Luck!

PC Building Part 1 (Choosing Components): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4
PC Building Part 2 (Actual Building the PC): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zAdwedmj1M
PC Building Part 3 (Software & Installing an OS): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok

aquielisunari · Nov 13, 2016

Jerry_61 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok will tell everything you need to build a PC from start to finish.

I'd do your shopping on Black Friday.

PcPartpicker does say the GFX card may be an issue. It will block some bays but will not prevent them from being used. http://www.vortez.net/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=12730 shows an 11" card. That MSI card is 10.83". A non-issue.

Youtube has so many OC videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV-J2TU08Qk is one of the better one's imo.

This will be a bit odd. I am offering an OC guide I used with my 970 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyk5DCladcY&t=8s . The numbers(core and memory clock specifically) are SORTA moot. I have the 970 FTW. Its clocks are higher than that of that Asus 970. The OC procedure is what matter. Bumping the core clock by 25MHz increments and testing. Rinse and repeat. Overclocking the memory clock by 100MHz increments and then testing it. Rinse and repeat. The key here is his methodology. He is extremely clear about the OC procedure which in my opinion is not only applicable to that exact model of GFX card. This includes all other parts of overclocking including voltage increases. BABY steps. VERY VERY small baby steps. I have a different card and clocks than that he used. However I was able to follow the clear directions and successfully overclock my 970.

The question you should ask yourself is why. What does overclocking CPU and GPU get me? The 6600K and 1060 aren't lightweights. They are both very capable parts. Why would you need to overclock either one at this point? When you overclock I would also use MSI afterburner https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner . With the settings key(looks like a gear) you can apply so many different settings. That includes so many On Screen Display options. https://postimg.org/image/3li74o6b7/ Shows but a few of those options. I have the GPU and CPU loads and temperatures, the GPU memory usage and system RAM usage applied in this screengrab. Afterburner will offer you some realtime information which can show you if the overclock is helping you or simply creating more heat. Sometimes more is just more. If there is an appreciable FPS difference, then good. If not.....

Jerry_61 · Nov 14, 2016

What happens if you overclock without needing to? I just want to get the most out of my money. I've read that the k versions of processors are better for the long run too.

aquielisunari · Nov 14, 2016

Jerry_61 :

What happens if you're driving a stick shift in 2nd or 3rd gear, in a school zone, going 20mph and you have the RPMs pegged at 7000? You are wasting energy. Lots of power but going nowhere fast. It isn't going to be detrimental but it might not be justified either. If you can see a performance difference in you're tasks then great. If not I'd wait to overclock until it's needed and shows a justifiable performance boost/ return on your OC investment.

The K version does offer some additional longevity. There will come a time when your system will begin to show its age. OC'ing can give new life to an older system.

Jerry_61 · Nov 14, 2016

I've also read that the samsung 850 evo is slower for the smaller capacity ones. Will I notice the difference between a 250gb one vs a 500gb one?

aquielisunari · Nov 14, 2016

Jerry_61 :

I can't answer that. You are comparing a real world SSD to a hypothetical SSD without specs.. Assuming performance based on size isn't going to work or make any sense. Only by seeing the specs at a site like newegg or reading or watching a business review can one realistically compare SSDs or HDDs or any PC component. The difference between teh 850 Evo and the 850 Pro won't really be noticeable other than in benchies. The warranty on the pro is twice as long as the Evo's.

CTurbo · Nov 14, 2016

Overclocking may potentially help you get another year out of your system, but you'll pay a lot more NOW to be able to do it. You wouldn't need to do it for 5-7 years probably and then it would add at most 1 more year. It's not some magical thing that's going to double the life of your system. It is also not free.

You would never never notice the difference in speed between the two Samsung ssds.

gumbob3 · Nov 14, 2016

Fun Fact: The Apple iPhone 7 32gb, 128gb, and 256gb options vary a lot in storage speed. I think the 256gb is up to 10x faster storage than the 32gb, so in the iPhone's case, the amount of space isn't the only difference.

Jerry_61 · Nov 16, 2016

So would I save alot more money if I switch the processor to a 6600 (no K) and switch the mobo to a cheaper one that doesn't feature overclock? I was also planning to overclock the graphics card in the future but if isn't worth the 1 extra year then I'm willing to save money XD.

gumbob3 · Nov 16, 2016

Jerry_61 :

Yes, you could save lots of money by not overclocking the CPU. Also, you can OC the graphics card regardless of what mobo, etc. you have.

aquielisunari · Nov 16, 2016

Jerry_61 :

Is OCing worth it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Hy_3b6a4E&t=320s . Decide for yourself. I can, with a simple ratio change overclock my CPU from (stock)3.5GHz to 4.4GHZ. Does that add enough value?

With additional changes I can overclock it even more. Does that add enough value to switch from the non K to the K version.

CTurbo · Nov 16, 2016

No it's not.

aquielisunari · Nov 16, 2016

CTurbo :

E Pluribus unum.

gumbob3 · Nov 17, 2016

aquielisunari :

One out of many what?

aquielisunari · Nov 17, 2016

gumbob3 :

aquielisunari :

One out of many what?

Opinion.

CTurbo · Nov 17, 2016

He's saying that my opinion about overclocking is in the minority and he's right. But that doesn't change the fact that overclocking newer Intel cpus makes little to no difference in gaming. Overclocking old AMD cpus? Yes... big difference.

My biggest issue with overclock is it's SO expensive. You have to pay more for the i5 6600k over the i5 6500 or 6600. You have to pay more for a Z170 motherboard over a B150 or H170 motherboard. Then, you have to buy a cpu cooler. The catch 22 is, if you cheap on the cooler and Z170 board, the overclock will be poor and make even less difference. You actually have to get a decent cooler and a good Z170 motherboard to get a relevant overclock and by that time, you have spent an extra $120 or more. It's not unusual to see people spend more like $200-250 just on overclocking.

aquielisunari · Nov 17, 2016

CTurbo :

I spent $90 on my motherboard(MSI Z97 PC Mate) er it may have been in the $80s. I did spend $20 more for the K version. When I get BF1 I'll see if OCing helps. At this point it's very capable and I already get very high FPS. Is usually keep Vsync enabled. Like in FC4. I already get Over 100FPS if vsync is off. OCing would be worthless for most of my games. However as time goes by and requirements increase I think the $20 investment will net a justifiable return.About 11% of the price? If it offers even 11 FPS(like that guy got in the video up there) the OC will be worth it, for me.

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