Is my system being bottlenecked at 1080p

shiv2734

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I custom builded a gaming notebook... With an I7 6700K,32 GB GSKILL DDR4 RAM, 2x240 GB M.2 SD, 1 TB 7200 RPM HGST, Nvidia GTX 1070m, and Clevo P750-DM2 it's got a 1080p60hz panel... So my question is am I getting bottlenecked in 1080p and should I use DSR if yes...
 
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SLi does wonderful things with the 970s (70% average FPS increase, 95% in the more demanding AA games). However that average drops to only 18% at 1080p and 33% at 1440p. This is the 1080 but scaling is usually consistent across the x70 and x80 cards

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080_SLI/20.html

That's probably a combination of...

a) The 10xx is about 100% faster as the 9xx .. but the % difference between the 6700k and the 4790k are in single digits

b) Be a while before nVidia is able to catch up w/ DX12 scaling and DX12 scores are what's bringing average down...

atomicWAR

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No not even a little bit. You have the best quad core on the market with a solid GPU. You can crank almost any game out at 60FPS with max settings and near max filters 16x by 8xmsaa @1080P save a couple titles that are resource hogs. As for DSAO....can't say i have heard of it. If you mean DSR or SSAO....DSR would increase visual fidelity some at the cost of frame rate. I wouldn't go higher then say 1400p Resolution scaled down to 1080P. As for SSAO If you have the head room to run it I would.
 

shiv2734

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Well until now the only thing that stayed above 60fps in my games was MGS V even Shadow of Mordor needed to turn down FXAA setting to FXAA only in order to get min 63 fps in the Benchmark...

 

atomicWAR

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running the geforce experience should help. It never gives me the exact settings i need for 60FPS but it usually puts me close if i am having trouble on my own. As for 60FPS in all games at 1080P with max filtering 16x by 8x anti-aliasing....even at 1080P some games won't do it or in turn require SLI (if supported). I see reviews all the time saying SLI is overkill at 1080P. I only recently switched to 4K and ran 2 GTX 980s in SLI @ 1080P and was able to max most games out (not all). Regardless for single card your in good space for 1080P. If your truly want to crank the visuals and filtering to the max you need to run SLI or CF. No single card I know of (including the GTX 1080 for which I have 2....can crank out max settings at 1080P with max setting a 16x filtering by 8x AA. Though I would say a 1080 could for 75% of games and with a GTX 1070 I'd say its closer to 68% of games you should be able to max out as mentioned. Point being that still leaves a lot of games you can't completely max out. Sadly most reviews either don't use filtering and AA or if they do its in game settings which are rarely set as high as you can manually in the nvidia control panel. Unless your willing to go with multi-gpu your stuck with your frame rates until your next upgrade. my guess is your stuck with single card in a custom built laptop but i could be wrong.
 


SLi does wonderful things with the 970s (70% average FPS increase, 95% in the more demanding AA games). However that average drops to only 18% at 1080p and 33% at 1440p. This is the 1080 but scaling is usually consistent across the x70 and x80 cards

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080_SLI/20.html

That's probably a combination of...

a) The 10xx is about 100% faster as the 9xx .. but the % difference between the 6700k and the 4790k are in single digits

b) Be a while before nVidia is able to catch up w/ DX12 scaling and DX12 scores are what's bringing average down

c) It's not in nVidias interests to improve scaling on 10xx series cards. With no competition from AMD in this performance niche, improving the 1070s SLI performance would have only 1 impact... it would gut sales of the 1080 and they make more money of one 1080 than two 1070s

With the 1070 you are good to go in 1440p/60FPS OR 1080p/120-144FPS

Just to clarify going from 1440p to 1080p also won't double frame rates... 35 - 75% is typical. Son No. 2 has twin MSI 970s gaming w/ 20% OC) on 1440p Predator monitor @ 144 Hz and he hasn't dipped below 60 fps in anything he's played yet. In Witcher 3, as I recall he's about 76 fps w/ the OC ... the 1070 managed 60.7 fps in W3 .. should hit 70+ with an OC'd MSI 1070 Gaming. Note that W3 is one of the few games where 970s in SLI beat the 1070, the 1070 wins in most games against twin 970s.

But, this is a lappie and the 1070m doesn't quite keep up with the 1070, tho it's much better than what we were accustomed to in previous generations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9TwndWcvM4
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-Mobile-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070/m164129vs3609
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx1070-mobile-pascal,32481.html

Mirrors Edge - 102 / 92
Hitman - 75 / 63
Witcher 3 - 65 / 57
Need 4 Speed - 98 / 85

Gotta note that just Cause was a lot faster on the lappie in that youtuber's test but can't account for that. You'll see fps in the 40s in some games with a 1070 (desktop) maybe a hair under 40 (lappie) in those at 1440p. But frankly, the 1070 is a superb card at 1440p and can even be called "too much card" for 1080p in either desktop or laptop configs ... I expect you might find 1 or 2 games to go under 60 fps with the laptop version, but it won't be by much.
 
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shiv2734

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Well Thanks for the reply as i was on a trip and didn't had the chance to open Tom's Hardware ....

Turns out i wasn't being bottlenecked by the Hardware but more by the power the hardware consumes... As soon as plugged the power cable in the Laptop it gained a massive boost in fps...and also Nvidia's Power Management was on an it locked my frames ....