GTX 1060 3GB - FX4100 bottleneck?

Louis Helyes · Nov 15, 2016

Hey, I am planning on getting a GTX 1060 3gb for christmas (from a GTS 450 1gb) and I am wondering how much of a bottleneck will I get with a FX4100?
I am planning on upgrading my CPU to the 8 series or the a10 series next summer so will this be fine and how much fps boost will I get.
The game I am most interested about is DayZ and how much fps boost I will get so if anyone can tell me if my rig will be fine with the GTX 1060 for around 7 months with significant fps boost. Thanks

Current rig
CPU: FX4100 3.6 GHz
MOBO:m5a78l-m lx v2
GPU: GTS 450 1gb
RAM: 8gb
Windows: 10

typosl1998 · Nov 15, 2016

I mean yes it would increase fps but the bottleneck would be huge.

TJ Hooker · Nov 15, 2016

Louis Helyes :

First off, your motherboard socket is not compatible with an A10. Also, you wouldn't want to get an APU (part number starts with an 'A', e.g. A10) anyway. They cost more because they have integrated graphics, which are pointless if you have discrete video card. Upgrading to an FX-83xx would be an improvement, but they're still not all that great and you're just sinking more money into a dead end platform.

I would seriously consider upgrading to an Intel (would require new mobo, possible new RAM). Also, by next summer AMD's new Zen CPUs should be out, so you could potentially upgrade to one of those if the performance and price are good (would also require new mobo and RAM).

Louis Helyes · Nov 16, 2016

When people say the bottleneck would be huge, can they tell me how much, would I see a fps increase from my gts 450 and how much?
Thanks

madmatt30 · Nov 16, 2016

Just buy the 1060 & enjoy it mate.
You'll see a big fps increase & be able to run close to max graphics settings.
There is certainly going to be a bottleneck but I would just forget about it & enjoy your gaming.

typosl1998 · Nov 16, 2016

I hate that matt tells people and advises them to make purchases that they won't be able to enjoy and doesn't even give valid statements. Yes you will get better fps, NO you will not be able to max everything out by no means. Your fx will cap out it's 100% far before you get to max everything out. Before spending 260 on a 1060 go for a 150$ cpu upgrade to a 8350fx if you can then throw in something like a rx 460 or gtx 1050 you will get much better improvement
.

madmatt30 · Nov 16, 2016

^ ERM scuse me ??
He said he's going to upgrade to an fx8*** early next year.

Now if he were running something even half decent on the GPU front I'd advise to upgrade the cpu first.

He's not though , he's running an ancient gts 450 which quite literally is going to struggle for ANY kind of gaming at all now.
Think that a 3+ year old starter gaming card like the gtx 750 (non ti) beats it easily & that card is well beyond defunct now too & my reply makes perfect sense

The fx 4100 can still game (& I mean any game) , yes you maybe down to 40fps at times but thats still eminently playable in my book.

I just can't see the point in recommending anything. lower than a 1050ti nowadays minimum unless people are on incredibly low budgets up upgrading prebuild with tiny Psu's.
Just makes no sense on a future proofing front at all.

typosl1998 · Nov 16, 2016

You must not do much research because saying the fx 4100 can still play " any game" is not only wrong beyond any doubt of belief. But suggesting a gpu upgrade over a cpu upgrade in terms of which comes first is just bad advise. That is like telling someone to get a better flooring in their house before putting a roof on it.

You do not replace a luxury such as a gpu, before a core component like the cpu. It's plain bad advice. Go for a higher end core part and then just go for a less expensive gpu.

Not to mention saying the FX 4100 can run any game. I almost laughed a little too hard on how amd fan'ish that sounds. I'm not sure if you are just biased because you use it or just don't know what you are talking about but please don't spread information like that. Even the FX 8350 I am suggesting has very big problems with current games and sometimes struggles. So a 40% less powerful cpu such as the FX 4100 most certainly can't run all games. Conclusion. Don't replace the gpu before the cpu. Gpu is luxury and cpu will keep you going and better performance in the long run, upgrade it first and just do a little lacking on the gpu end.

Louis Helyes · Nov 16, 2016

Guys, at the moment i play a game called DayZ, i play on a 1080p screen and i play the game at 1080p on low-med settings, i get 25-30 inside of major towns (high density areas) and just around 60 (if im lucky) in rural areas therefore for 8 months until i upgrade my cpu, will the 1060 be a good option for me?

madmatt30 · Nov 16, 2016

Name a game it can't 'play' then matey if you're so keen on facts.

& then show me how well an 8350 will do with that old 1gb gts 450 (you do know how old that card is right??)

& you're telling him to drop an 8350 on that old 3+1 phase 760g board??
Fireworks there for sure.

Yes it'll bottleneck with a 4100, absolutely not to the point of unplayability

& you're running an 8350 & struggling to game where I'm running a 6300 & aren't struggling with anything BTW.

typosl1998 · Nov 16, 2016

Even more so to help DayZ is a cpu intensive game. I told you already go for the fx 8350 now it's only around 150$ then grab something like an gtx 1050 or rx 460 for 100$ which will come to about 250$ which is what you would pay for one gtx 1060. And you will be able to play on 1080p medium-high and about 45-60 fps or even more with my suggestion. Then instead of upgrading your cpu in 8 months, upgrade your gpu to a 1060 then you will be set.

typosl1998 · Nov 16, 2016

madmatt30 :

As I figured you are an AMD fan boy who defends them without logical facts. Fact is the FX 4100 with an OK cpu 5 years ago now it's not even considered top 50. It will struggle in Pc optimized 2015-2016 triple A titles let alone a game like Dayz which is poorly optimized. Stop being biased on posts telling people things based on you being an AMD customer. I have been both and fact stands that even an I3 3rd generation can out do the FX 4100. And with that being said an i3-3rd gen can not even handle todays games. So just stop.

typosl1998 · Nov 16, 2016

P.s I'm not running a 8350, I do not deal with amd on account of their very low single core performance. But I am not going to recommend him to keep a super outdated cpu that can't handle what he wants in the first place. Trying actually knowing before acting as if you are giving any real details.

madmatt30 · Nov 16, 2016

Louis Helyes

The fps are what you're going to get with a stock bulldozer , a GPU upgrade isn't going to push a lot more fps.
You may average 10 more fps generally but you'll be able to up graphics settings & make the game 'look nicer' at least.

Your absolute 100% way to test if you're going to get an actual performance upgrade on the fps front is to drop the game to 720p resolution & have a play through for an hour.

If dayz is pretty much your only game then a 1060 is going to be overkill & you can spend less on a new GPU.

Post back with your results.

Louis Helyes · Nov 16, 2016

Hey, I've been doing some testing on DayZ now for about 20-30 mins in both towns and out of big towns and overall the fps increase when on 720p is 50%. In places I would get 30fps on 1080p i would get a solid 60fps on 720p all settings were kept the same. Also, my PSU is 650w but I am unsure of the brand.

madmatt30 · Nov 16, 2016

Then that kind of fps increase is the minimum you're going to see at 1080p with a new GPU mate.

Which backs up what I said originally ;-)

You can save money & go 1050ti or go whole hog with a 1060 3gb with regards to upgrading the GPU etc in the future.

Looking at prices at the minute.

Zotac 1050 ti mini - £135
Zotac 1060 3gb mini -£185

In dayz they're honestly going to perform virtually the same

If you want to branch out to other more GPU orientated titles then that £50 gets you a huge amount more GPU grunt.

Louis Helyes · Nov 16, 2016

madmatt30 :

Ok man thank you so much, i will bite the bullet and go for the 1060, i would be more than happy if i get that sort of fps increase. Anyways i am only keeping the FX 4100 until July therefore i dont know why getting a 1060 now wouldn't be a good option, thanks for the help.

P.S what site are you looking at for the GPU's

madmatt30 · Nov 16, 2016

I uses partpicker mate , there are a couple of cards id pick over the zotac by a long way as long as you have room in your case .
The issue at the moment is because of brexit the pound has dropped & component prices have increased by 10% or so

I don't really see it getting much better soon either

What's your case model ??

If its fits the exoc is the card I'd pick mate personally

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2-geforce-gtx-1060-oc-3072mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-098-kf.html

Tenner delivery but it's only stocked by overclock era who are a great site to deal with.

You can get the zotac for £185 delivered but the exoc is a far better card for a tenner more

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2-geforce-gtx-1060-oc-3072mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-098-kf.html

Louis Helyes · Nov 16, 2016

madmatt30 :

Ok thanks, my case is no fancy case :??:

it doesnt even have a name but looking at it i think there is space for slightly larger cards, i will look into dimensions nearer the time of buying a 1060 tho.

madmatt30 · Nov 16, 2016

That card is 225mm long which is short for a twin fan number .

You wont have an issue at all seeing as your motherboard is 20mm wider than that after checking.

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