Sudden FPS loss I36100 HD530

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Hello everyone, I've recently put together my first gaming PC and I haven't had any serious issues except for my PSU making a weird rattling noise that seems to persist randomly after two days or so. I have a good feeling that it may have something to do with Power Supply as I noticed that my FPS dropped significantly from 60fps+ to 30fps and under however, It has been always keeping up at 60fps+ even with the PSU noise coming back randomly...until i installed The Elder Scrolls Oblivion. (I don't know if this has anything to do with my performance but I noticed after ending that game and going to a game I'd normally play in that schedule which was boarderlands2 the fps was at 30fps) I'd love to start playing again but I don't know what the problem is coming from. Please help I'll try all troubleshooting methods. Right now I'm currently in the process of reinstalling Windows 10 a clean install by formatting HDD. I never had this issue before and have no idea what may have caused it as the only thing i did was download a game and play it and switch to another one and fps drops on any game i switch to now. Here's my PC specs if that helps.. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/XCXGjc I don't have the GPU as shown yet, I'm using intel HD 530 graphics and never had an issue with framerate until now.
 

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No I was planning to get the 1060 later. I am only using stock graphics from my I36100. Thanks a lot for the reply though, I do appreciate it. I meant elder scrolls skyrim, sorry and it runs fine but for some reason after downloading that game and going back to another game id usually play like boarderlands for example my fps is at 30 when normally it would be 60fps+. This is such a pain because I don't understand what is causing this but I've found a similar closed thread that relates to my issue but it never got solved :(
 
Did you install your motherboard chipset drivers? https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H110M-K/HelpDesk_Download/ (skip the utilities)

If you have graphics or driver issues, one of the most common fixes is a clean uninstall and removal of your graphics drivers.

To uninstall your drivers, first download and run Display Driver Uninstaller, and follow it's recommendations of booting into safe mode and ect.
(This is a direct download link so you don't grab the wrong version)
http://www.guru3d.com/files-get/display-driver-uninstaller-download,20.html

You'll download a compressed file called "[Guru3D.com]-DDU.zip"
Right click and choose extract.
Go into the folder and run the DDU v##.##.exe
This will extract more files to this folder.
Run Display Driver Uninstaller.exe
Choose Yes when it asks you to boot into SafeMode.
After you've rebooted into safe mode.
When DDU comes up, if it hasn't selected your GPU manufacturer (Nvidia/AMD/Intel) then choose it from the drop down list
Press the Clean and Restart option
If a window comes up asking to disable the Windows automatic installation of display drivers click yes.

After (or before removing the old drivers, just put the new ones on the desktop or somewhere handy) rebooting back into Windows, manually download the latest drivers from Nvidia or AMD, don't use auto detect, choose you GPU model and OS from the drop down lists.
Nvidia: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
AMD: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
Intel: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html
 

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Hmm I never installed any chipset driver before and games were doing fine to answer your question.
Thanks, I will try all that right now. One thing that did get my attention though is I did a little research on ram and Vram and found out that borderland 2 requires a minimum of 256MB of VRAM while I went into control panel display settings and display adapter properties to see my intel hd 530 says Total available graphics memory 4175MB & Dedicated video memory at only 128 MB. I don't know if it's always been at 128 MB or not or if this is even affecting my fps performance.. Is this normal ? Just thought I'd put that out there. I'm feeling a lot better now that I've got some help :) I will let you know if installing the motherboard chipset driver as well as uninstalling my graphics driver and manually installing the most current driver fixed the issue..
 

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Ok thanks I've also noticed I can't play in the highest resolution setting as I use to be able to before(boarderlands2). When I do a larger resolution not yet fitting the screen but almost my framerate goes down from 60fps @ 1366x768 to 30fps@ 1440x900 and now for whatever reason it is.. I can't choose the last resolution 1600x900 because it is now greyed out. I don't understand that's why I thought maybe you run out of vram or that 128mb is not normally but after seeing your comment I understand that this is normal since 128 is assigned for windows. After clean install it automatically greyed out the last resolution 1600x900 bringing me to 1336x768 upon starting the game using default automatic/auto detect settings in game. Settings are fine, I've already triple checked that out. This happens on all my games now where bf badcompany2 runs at 50-60-80fps while it use to be running at 150fps + without Vsync. My last solution are the two you've proposed. I am doing them now. UPDATE: I was able to change to highest resolution 1600x900 using settings outside of the game and my fps is 40 going under which is strange because why would a higher resolution bring higher fps... I was just at 30 fps on 1440x900. Have you heard of anything like this? Is it maybe a driver issue to you? Just curious but I guess I'll find out.
 

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Make sure your igpu has enough RAM assigned to it. I forget where the settings are (it's some advanced menu under an advanced menu), but since the igpu uses a chunk of your system memory as VRAM, make sure you aren't choking the igpu by assigning it like 25mb or something. Since you have 8GB total, I'd assign your igpu 1-2GB (1024-2048mb) memory.

Increasing the screen resolution probably auto scaled the amount of RAM the igpu had access to. That's my guess, anyway.
 

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Clean install of Windows and performance is at balanced.
I've updated graphics driver and installed chipset driver.
I've checked CPU supplemental power connector if that has anything to do with it also checked other cables and everything looks ok.
I went into my bios and noticed that DVMT Pre-Allocated was 64MB so I increased it to 1024MB.
Performance actually did slightly worser but not too noticeable. Feeling confused as to what actually may be causing this. I'm going to try updating my bios. I'm running out of things to try here and I have no idea why this happened out of nowhere after playing a game, Is there information I can give you that would might make the problem clear? I installed CPUID..

I'm saving up to get a good GPU hoping that it will fix this issue, I really really dont want the fps to drop on that as well. What is going on here?? My fps has never been this slow. I thought for sure after a clean install of Windows, removing drivers as you said installing new ones that it would fix this..
Thank-You for your time, It is really valued.. I don't plan on giving up, it's just been stressful experience looking all over google for some kind solution. I'd really love it if we could resolve this and start playing games back at 60fps +. There has to be a way to fix this and the same thread that was quite similar to this never got a solution! Please help! Please note that the fps isn't dropping but it loss 30 frames where it would run above 60fps now its 30 and under. I downloaded skyrim today again after the clean install and noticed fps is even worse.. Seriously. I WOULD greatly appreciate some help. This is making no sense, fps loss came out of no where after installing skyrim before attempting a clean install as a solution and now its worser than before.
 
Uhh, if you don't use auto detect settings in games, and just set them all to their lowest quality, what do you get?

Auto detect may be turning on things like v-sync, and maybe putting it to 2x v-sync which would cap it at 30 fps.

Which Skyrim are you installing? the special edition or the vanilla one, Legendary edition, which expansions? You may want to get some of the unofficial patches for them.
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71214/?

How are you measuring your FPS? Give MSI Afterburner a try (it doesn't require any MSI products)
https://www.msi.com/blog/setting-up-osd-with-msi-afterburner

Skyrim can cause FPS drops on i3s sometimes on it's own though.

But you should be able to run skyrim at 1080p 60fps...

I really doubt it's your powersupply, as without a GPU, your system really only draws like 95Ws.
 

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While it is probably unrelated to your current issue, I find this rattling noise in your PSU to be a little concerning and possibly more serious. Have you tried figuring out what it is that is causing the noise? Try disconnecting the PSU and looking around inside for anything loose, power it up (not connected to your machine) and see if it still rattles.

Note: To power it up without connecting it to a mobo, you'll need to short the PS_On pin to one of the COM/Ground pins with a paperclip/staple or something.
atx-pinout.png


If there are still problems, I'd advise either returning it (if you can) or sending it in for warranty repair. Personally, I would return it if possible and get a tier 3 PSU from PSU tier list. They should be in the same price range but a bit more reliable (I like EVGA 500B or Seasonic S12II). If you can't return it, I'm sure corsair will be more than willing to replace it if you have the purchase receipt and it's within warranty.


Now regarding your issue with FPS drops. When you update drivers, are you letting Windows device manager do it or are you downloading from Intel? If one's not working, delete the driver (through device manager) and try the other. There are sometimes weird quirks that make one more preferable over the other. Other than that, I'm at a loss.

Are all games experiencing the issue? What about benchmarks like FireStrike? Do you score approximately in the same range as other people with similar setups? Have you moved your computer recently or changed it's cooling configuration? It might be a thermal issue, though that seems unlikely. How hot does your CPU get when you see these FPS drops? Have you gone into Intel Graphics Settings (or whatever it is called, I don't remember the exact name) and poking around with the settings in there? It might be set in a low power mode or something, for whatever reason.

Edit: it occurs to me that you have the new CX450M, not the old 430M. I haven't read any reviews of the new CX series PSUs, but they're probably in the same tier 3 to tier 4 range
 

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Thanks for the kind response.
I remember having issues where I couldn't get the PC to start when I first built it so I had to use a paperclip to test out the PSU and it was fine so i connected it back and for some reason it all just powered up but just down the road made a noise reseated noise came back after a day never moved the case.. recently reseated haven't heard the noise for a day or two ..and I have a feeling it's going to come back and if it does maybe this is my culprit. Though I did have a feeling this might also be do to vibrations.


The noise has stopped after reseating a day ago. CPU and MOB temp are in 20's so that's good. I'm installing the new drivers using the DDU to reboot to safe mode and safely uninstall old drivers and then using Driver Update Utility from intel to automatically scan and choose the lastest driver. I've tried to go into manual and look for my drivers but it doesn't show it having my chipset H110M-K just other chipsets..

I'm downloading HWmonitor, would I have to run the game in windowed mode to see temps or is there a better software to use to see temps in game? Thanks again for the response, It makes me feel better.. I am too at a lost. Yes, all games I've tested that would normally run at a higher fps.. they are now at about a 20-30ish fps drop :(
As for graphics settings its on balanced. I do notice at random times my disk usage will go up to a 100% on idle.. At this point, I'm just trying to figure out whatever might be the cause.. Also I could benchmark things but like I've already previously said in this thread.. "where it would run above 60fps now its 30" So it's definently an issue it's obvious on this other end because I use to use fraps and have steam overlay when I played games normally that would runs 60fps+. I really really curious as to what might have caused this fps loss to begin with as I did note that I had to reseat the PSU and downloaded a skyrim after playing went to borderlands and heart dropped after seeing my resolution auto detect and fps get so much worser. Trying to go back to skyrim the fps went from 60 to 30. I am certain I have given all the information of what may of what happened before fps loss.
HW monitor shows mainboard at 120c in temperature this is not normal right??OMG ai suite says 23 c Update:http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1797905/115c-mainboard-temperature-reading-hwmonitor.html Apparently it wouldn't run at that temperature just hwmonitor having problems with Asus boards


UPDATE: I have also tried to update the bios today and received a replacement from Corsair. Still I am getting the fps loss I wish I could go back to playing games how it normally was 60fps+. :( I guess all that's left to check now is the RAM. Please if anyone knows anything I can try, I'd greatly appreciate the response..
 

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I've been stressing over this for so long. Very annoying. I once had 200fps+, Do you think upgrading to a gpu would solve this issue? Maybe I wouldn't experience any kind of loss on that? Still doesn't explain what is causing my igpu to have fps loss out of nowhere, I keep trying and I'm beginning to feel very hopeless. I thought I'd be fine with the igpu:(
 
Is it possible you're running it at a higher resolution that you were previously? that could definitely be the source of FPS loss.

And it gets stuck at 20-30fps right, it's not like it goes from 200 "mostly" and then falls to 20-30 for a second or three?

But you DO have the Intel Graphics drivers right? These ones at the top: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/90729/Intel-Core-i3-6100-Processor-3M-Cache-3-70-GHz-

Your disk usage going to 100% can cause FPS drops as well. But seeing how it's an SSD that's not a problem i'd typically associate with SSDs, but can happen to HDDS.

Go down this Windows 10 Optimization list and see if anything improves: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/optimize-windows-10-gaming/
 

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Wrong. I use to get around 200fps. The fps is 60 fps to 30 fps and under when explosions happen ect ect.