PC Build - is it okay?

DannyOG · Nov 20, 2016

Cooler: CPU Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO
HDD: Hard disk Toshiba DT01ACAxxx 1TB SATA-III 7200 RPM 32MB
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX600 80+ Bronze
RAM: HyperX Fury Black 8GB DDR4 2133MHz CL14 Dual Channel Kit
CPU: Intel Skylake, Core i5 6500 3.20GHz box
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-H170-Gaming 3
GPU: Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Dual 3GB DDR5 192-bit

Ali Tauseef · Nov 20, 2016

Yeah, but what about your case?

Isokolon · Nov 20, 2016

Don't buy this PSU.
First it's got Way more wattage than needed
Second it's poor quality.

Look around if you can find a Super Flower PSU
If not take a look at Seasonic or XFX (aside from their XT). You Can go as low as 450W without any Kind of issues (could Even go lower but it's harder to find quality PSUs below 450W)
Last resort would be the updated Corsair CXM 450/550/650. They're better than the old 430/500/600.

Would be a shame pairing high grade components with a low end PSU that's bound to fail rather sooner than later when quality units are only a couple of bucks more expensive

Mikel_4 · Nov 20, 2016

I figure this must be gaming setup,

■ GIGABYTE GA-H170-Gaming 3 power is 24 pin & 8 pin. CX600 has those.
■ Palit GTX 1060 has 6+2 pin & 6pin. CX600 has those.
■ is hyper X part number is HX421C14FBK2/8
HX4 = kingstone hyper X DDR4, 21 = 2133MHz, C14 = CAS 14, FBK2 = dual channel kit fury black heatspreader, /8 = two identical factory select 4GB DDR4. Yes your pick is listed H170 gaming 3 memory QVL
■ TX3 evo is rather noisy (I sold this on my shop) you should opt whatever CPU cooler with 120 mm fan(s) fits your budget. If you don't overclock, i5 6500 stock cooler will suffice.
■ Gigabyte H170 gaming 3 motherboard doesn't include graphic card QVL, I assume this one should work with all PCIe graphic card.
■ Gigabyte H170 gaming 3 has m.2 socket, consider faster m.2 storage for faster files read/write copy, also memory type storages have longer life span and lesser watt consumption.

Gigabyte H170 gaming 3 is ATX motherboard, make sure your case has 7 expansion slot.
GTX 1060 + G Sync monitor will deliver smooth gaming experience up to full HD monitor

Happy gaming

DannyOG · Nov 20, 2016

Isokolon :

I came down to these two:
Corsair CX450M, 80+ Bronze, 450W
Seasonic S12II-520 Bronze 520W

Which one is better?

I also changed the GPU with Sapphire Radeon RX 480 NITRO+ 8GB DDR5 256-bit Lite

John_485 · Nov 20, 2016

Isokolon :

Hey Isokolon,

I currently have a new EVGA 500W 80+ (bronze) in my rig. I have a standby (Corsair GS700) that came from my last build. Usually I try and buy a little more power then I need. That Corsair served me for three years without any problems. Is the GS700 considered a substandard psu? I've heard good things about Seasonic. What exactly is a Super Flower PSU?

Thanks,

-laz.

Isokolon · Nov 20, 2016

Depends on your usage.

The Seasonic uses better caps and has low ripple but is group regulated.
The Corsair comes with dc-dc converters, supports haswell's low power states and comes with semi-modular cables which makes it easier to build your computer.

So I'd say if you're on of those people who have their computers always turned on and uses the computer's sleep modes quite a lot, go.with the Corsair

If you sometimes have problems with your power grid the Seasonic would be the better choice as it's a bit more durable

If neither of those factors apply go with what you can get easier or cheaper.

madmatt30 · Nov 20, 2016

Is personally take the CX 450m over the old seasonic platform due to it's generally better efficiency & newer platform .

Both are good though.

The tx 3 is absolutely unnecessary, the stock i5 cooler is good enough.

If quietness is what you're after then the gammaxx 300 is a better cooler & likely cheaper.

madmatt30 · Nov 20, 2016

John_485 - super flower is an actual manufacturer of PSU's not a rebrander like corsair, evga, xfx.
Widely renowned as THE best quality units although its a Tie between them & seasonic IMO.

They're regarded as the best simply because all their PSU models are at the very least good quality (apart from Pre 2012 units which you will not see in shops now anyway)

Mikel_4 · Nov 20, 2016

Isokolon :

On what particular model are you referring? could you compare each seasonic (whatever model) components to CX600? such as transformator, capacitor, etc. And why those components better in term of performance and life span?

Isokolon · Nov 20, 2016

@John please don't hijack threads.

The GS series comes as bronze efficient unit and as only 80+ certified unit.
Only found a review for the bronze unit.

Comes with a good primary side And dc-dc converters
However the secondary side isn't really convincing and it comes only with voltage protections

Personally it's a bit too unsafe for my taste and I wouldn't oc with it. But if your PSU fails on a Friday and you can't get a new way before Tuesday it'll probably be fine.

The EVGA 500b isn't really the best unit as well.
But it does come with all the safe guards except overtemperature protection
However filtering stage & caps are worse than the GS

Wouldn't put it in a high end build

Isokolon · Nov 20, 2016

@Mikel4:

Look at reviews yourself comparing all Seasonic models with the CX is a massive task

But you're welcome to use google, JohnnyGuru, Hardwareluxx, hardwaresecrets all do good reviews on PSUs with disassembly.

Generally Seasonic PSUs always use high grade caps and come with solid designs and good Board work

I was referring to the above mentioned S12II

John_485 · Nov 21, 2016

Isokolon :

Hey,

So what would you personally recommend. When I built my system I had to think about economy. Now that my system is built I can think about upgrading my PSU.

My rig:

MSI Z170A Gaming M5
Intel Skylake 6600K
Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 2x8GB
MSI Gaming X GTX 1060 6GB

Thank you,

-laz.

Isokolon · Nov 21, 2016

Depends on your budget.
I prefer high grade units like Super Flower Leadex, Corsair RMx / RMi, EVGA Supernova G2 / GS, XFX XTR or a BeQuiet Dark Power Pro

For cheaper units I really liek XFX. Their PSUs are made by Seasonic but come with lower noise due to a better fan controller. The TS series are excellent PSUs. As are the Pro if you don't have your computer in sleep mode all the time.
Or alternatively the really good Super Flower Golden Green, Golden King, (Leadex Silver)

Old but still kicking is the Seasonic S12II/M12II series. High quality components but some design weaknesses due to the age of the platform.
The Corsair CXM (the New CXMs mentioned in a post above) are like the mirrored Seasonics. They come with a good design but cheap out on some caps and other components but will be fine.

So if budget allows I'd like one of the ones mentioned in the first paragraph with 550W.

If not a 450W unit is good enough.

John_485 · Nov 21, 2016

Hello,

I will definitely go for one the superior units you started off with. What is the problem with sleep mode and some power supplies? The reason I ask is because I'm on a balanced power plan with things set to sleep at 25 minutes. I keep my computer on 24/7 because if I'm not using it then my wife or my children might be. I often fall asleep watching a video on my computer, displayed on my television, hence the sleep mode and the 24/7 operation.

I've asked the question regarding whether or not keeping a computer on 24/7 was something to avoid or whether or not it damages the computer and the answers I received were always positive, meaning it wasn't a problem leaving a computer on 24/7.

Do you have a different opinion (and please answer the question about sleep mode, I'm interested)? If you do I would like to hear it and the reasoning behind it.

Thanks again Isokolon,

-laz.

Isokolon · Nov 21, 2016

With haswell (4th Generation Intel i-CPUs) Intel introduced some special low power states.
Now some especially older designs don't support those power states and according to.their features detect there's something wrong when this little.power is consumed and shut down.
More modern PSU design factor that in and are compatible with it.
All of those I listed in the first paragraph and most of the PSUs in the second do support them though.

I myself use a XFX TS Gold and am rather satisfied although I'd invest in a semi-passive cooled unit that is (semi/)modular today (but I hate hearing any noise from my computer and f*** up cable management too easy)

Units that for example aren't compatible with it are fore example the XFX TS Bronze, Core, Pro - Seasonic S12II/M12II - Antec HCG off the quality supplies

Generally it shouldn't be a problem as long as your HDD is put to sleep as well. Otherwise an HDD that was built for 24/7 use would be necessary.

John_485 · Nov 23, 2016

Isokolon :

Thanks.

I cannibalized my old computer and moved my Western Digital Caviar Black HDD to my new rig while installing a small SSD to house the operating system and a few utility programs. That WD Black was purchased in 2008 and is still going strong! I'll probably buy a larger WD Black for backups and buy a much larger SSD in the near future for games, media, and everyday use (M.2).

I'm going to replace my power supply first, then worry about a new SSD. I've already added some fans and I might eventually buy a new cpu cooler (Noctua NH-D15S) to replace my Cooler Master 212 Hyper LED but I'm not sure if it's really warranted?

I'm already overclocked @4.2GHz (seems like I got a middle of the road chip) but can't seem to get 4.3GHz stable under Prime95 (older versions). I think I'll tinker around some more in the next few weeks. I was kind of surprised my 6600K didn't hit the allegedly easy to obtain 4.6GHz with relatively low voltage values? The best I could do stable has been 4.2GHz (Adaptive Offset+ with a Vcore of 1.27 and the offset @ 0.040mv).

You never gave me a clear answer on what you thought about 24/7 computer use?

Isokolon · Nov 23, 2016

John_485 :

Isokolon :

Thanks.

I cannibalized my old computer and moved my Western Digital Caviar Black HDD to my new rig while installing a small SSD to house the operating system and a few utility programs. That WD Black was purchased in 2008 and is still going strong! I'll probably buy a larger WD Black for backups and buy a much larger SSD in the near future for games, media, and everyday use (M.2).

I'm going to replace my power supply first, then worry about a new SSD. I've already added some fans and I might eventually buy a new cpu cooler (Noctua NH-D15S) to replace my Cooler Master 212 Hyper LED but I'm not sure if it's really warranted?

I'm already overclocked @4.2GHz (seems like I got a middle of the road chip) but can't seem to get 4.3GHz stable under Prime95 (older versions). I think I'll tinker around some more in the next few weeks. I was kind of surprised my 6600K didn't hit the allegedly easy to obtain 4.6GHz with relatively low voltage values? The best I could do stable has been 4.2GHz (Adaptive Offset+ with a Vcore of 1.27 and the offset @ 0.040mv).

You never gave me a clear answer on what you thought about 24/7 computer use?

pretty sure I did though. if your HDD is put to sleep as well 24/7 ain't too bad. if not, I'd get a 24/7 HDD.

a Noctua ND15 is severe overkill for any CPU that uses the LGA1150/1151 socket. your 212 Evo should keep it sufficiently cool. if you live in a particularly hot climate, a Noctua U12S (or was it S12U?), a Cryorig H5 or Scythe Mugen Max is basically all you need.
I'd check your cases airflow. seems you don't have the best airflow in your case if the 212 Evo can't manage.

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