CPU or GPU upgrade build sugestion !

KenshiroHnK · Nov 23, 2016

Hi, first of all, apologize for my bad english

. I'm planing to upgrade my computer, this is what i have:

-mother a88x g1 sniper gygabite
-ram 1866 ddr3 sniper gskill 2x4gb (8gb)
-hdd sata WD cavier black 2tb
-a10 6800k 4.1
-r9 270x 2gb gddr5

Now i was thining, buying a10 7890k but i saw many comparisons with my a10 6800k and i dont know if its worth. Maybe i should wait a little more for a better procesor.
Or should i buy a better graphic card instead ? could you help me chose ? and which card should i look for. Thanks !!

i was thinking Rx sapphire 470

SammChisnall · Nov 23, 2016

You need to buy an intel processor, either i3 or i5, you will see a huge performance increase from that.

thehutti · Nov 23, 2016

First if you are using an APU you would normally use the internal GPU, as they offer no advantage with a extrenal GPU compared to a normal CPU. The increased performance of the 7890k compared to the 6800k is almost only in internal GPU performance and so your upgrade would do almost nothing because the cpu performance increases only a little bit each generation. Using a dedicated GPU already I would not go for another APU but a normal CPU. The only problem you would have is the mainboard. APUs tend to have FM2+ socket and almost no normal CPU runs on them.
If you want a cheap upgrade would go for an 6th gen intel i3 with a lower class chipset mainboard if you want to increase performance. Then a GPU update would have a better base in the future. Of cource you can start with a GPU upgrade but the 6800k will bottleneck a new GPU by a fair bit.

ZachCampbell4065 · Nov 23, 2016

It sounds like you're on a limited budget. I would advise going for an i3-6100 which will stomp the AMD APU, and match it with a, h110 motherboard such as this:

http://www.box.co.uk/MSI_Intel_H110M_GAMING_Micro_ATX_Skylake_1957531.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAmdXBBRD0hZCVkYHTl20SJACWsZj9tHfOrbTA3iGZRlyVuLilmH0mhQB7Thci1Q5B1QBljBoC3vTw_wcB

KenshiroHnK · Nov 23, 2016

thehutti :

First if you are using an APU you would normally use the internal GPU, as they offer no advantage with a extrenal GPU compared to a normal CPU. The increased performance of the 7890k compared to the 6800k is almost only in internal GPU performance and so your upgrade would do almost nothing because the cpu performance increases only a little bit each generation. Using a dedicated GPU already I would not go for another APU but a normal CPU. The only problem you would have is the mainboard. APUs tend to have FM2+ socket and almost no normal CPU runs on them.
If you want a cheap upgrade would go for an 6th gen intel i3 with a lower class chipset mainboard if you want to increase performance. Then a GPU update would have a better base in the future. Of cource you can start with a GPU upgrade but the 6800k will bottleneck a new GPU by a fair bit.

Thank you so much, would you help me with a good intel build then mother and i5 maybe i also have a good power supply

KenshiroHnK · Nov 23, 2016

ZachCampbell4065 :

would you suggest me i5 and a mother for it

KenshiroHnK · Nov 23, 2016

i have no problem in change my current build cuz ill give it to my brother. So im willing to invest in a good intel build I5 will do i think and motherboard

ZachCampbell4065 · Nov 23, 2016

If you have the budget for an i5, stretch to an i5-6500 with the same motherboard. If you have an even higher budget, get an i5-6600 with the same motherboard.

KenshiroHnK · Nov 23, 2016

ZachCampbell4065 :

i know nothing about intel u_u so this motherboard you said ? h110 + i5 6600

ZachCampbell4065 · Nov 23, 2016

Yep, you don't need a Z170 motherboard unless you plan on overclocking, at which point you'll need to drop even more money on the 6600k version and a better motherboard. The one I linked plus the non-k i5-6600 is plenty.

KenshiroHnK · Nov 23, 2016

ZachCampbell4065 :

i can afford 6600k, and which motherboard you suggest me ? i wont overclock

ZachCampbell4065 · Nov 23, 2016

You're not overclocking? Then justifying the 6600k is a bit hard! I'd honestly save the money and stick with the 6600 if you never plan on overclocking, games don't even need the higher clock.

ZachCampbell4065 · Nov 23, 2016

But if you were to get one, I'd advise a simple Z170 like this:

https://www.cclonline.com/product/200875/Z170-A-PRO/Motherboards/MSI-Z170-A-PRO-Motherboard-6th-Gen-Core-i3/i5/i7/Pentium/Celeron-Socket-LGA1151-Z170-ATX-RAID-Gigabit-LAN/MBD1895/?gclid=CjwKEAiAmdXBBRD0hZCVkYHTl20SJACWsZj9BAPlIzLnifNxqUj78JW-wFEfxdoIZXxL8n7YdNiNAxoCojHw_wcB

KenshiroHnK · Nov 23, 2016

ZachCampbell4065 :

so
-Mother Asrock H110M-HDS S1151 DDR4 M-ATX
+
-i5 6600
if i have this 2, in a future i can upgrade my video card ?

ZachCampbell4065 · Nov 23, 2016

Yes you can easily, and add a second card if you feel the need.

KenshiroHnK · Nov 23, 2016

ZachCampbell4065 :

Thank you sooo much apreciate your help ! have a great day !

thehutti · Nov 23, 2016

No problem, it's a bit a question of price and availability in your country and so on. You can look in a store in your location and then choose an i5/board. Boards are mostly different in their chipsets and build quality. If you buy high end gaming mainboards you would get a better sound card and a chipset that offers a lot of connections and a little bit of more performance, but most of the time if you want to build a cheap PC then they are heavily overpriced. The different chipsets offer a number of maximum ports (just take a look into wikipedia and they have a table of everything) Take a chipset that supports everything you'll need and then look for mainboards that have exactly this one. For example the "MSI Intel H110M GAMING Micro ATX" that ZachCampbell4065 suggested is a mainboard with the H110 chipset. All H110 chipset boards are in the same pricerange (maybe a few bucks more or less). The i5 CPU lineup is not so big. Always buy a CPU from the new Generation (6th at the moment) and go for the older ones only if you find a cheap used one. In the 6th Gen you can choose between an i5-6400, i5-6500, i5-6600 and i5-6600k (And some low energy special ones with a T behind them).
The offer almost the same features but get a little bit faster each categorie. The K is just that the cpu has an open multiplier that supports simple overclocking if you buy a Z170 Chipset mainboard with it, but it's not the cheapest option.

KenshiroHnK · Nov 23, 2016

thehutti :

No problem, it's a bit a question of price and availability in your country and so on. You can look in a store in your location and then choose an i5/board. Boards are mostly different in their chipsets and build quality. If you buy high end gaming mainboards you would get a better sound card and a chipset that offers a lot of connections and a little bit of more performance, but most of the time if you want to build a cheap PC then they are heavily overpriced. The different chipsets offer a number of maximum ports (just take a look into wikipedia and they have a table of everything) Take a chipset that supports everything you'll need and then look for mainboards that have exactly this one. For example the "MSI Intel H110M GAMING Micro ATX" that ZachCampbell4065 suggested is a mainboard with the H110 chipset. All H110 chipset boards are in the same pricerange (maybe a few bucks more or less). The i5 CPU lineup is not so big. Always buy a CPU from the new Generation (6th at the moment) and go for the older ones only if you find a cheap used one. In the 6th Gen you can choose between an i5-6400, i5-6500, i5-6600 and i5-6600k (And some low energy special ones with a T behind them).
The offer almost the same features but get a little bit faster each categorie. The K is just that the cpu has an open multiplier that supports simple overclocking if you buy a Z170 Chipset mainboard with it, but it's not the cheapest option.

Now more than clear, i really apreciate your help ! *-* its my birthday in dec and i just got a rise so i want to upgrade my computer. Thank yall

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