Asking for 4K Hardcore gaming build - Budget 2.5K - 3K

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Hi Guys,

Budget Range: USD 2500-3000
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Heavy Gaming (VR + non VR)
Are you buying a monitor: No
Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No
Your Monitor Resolution: 2560x1440
Additional Comments: Prefer quiet PC as well.

I am a gaming enthusiast and love to play witcher 3 at 2K-4K and <60FPS
Unfortunately, my current PC can only handle around 30-40FPS (2K) and therefore would like to ask for your generous advice.


Please find my previous PC configuration below:

Intel Core i7 4790K @ 4.00GHz
ASRock Z97 Professional
2x 8GB Kingston HyperX Fury
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti (6GB)
476GB Samsung SSD 850 PRO 512G SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM 001-1CH164 SCSI Disk Device (SATA)
Corsair HX1000i/1000W ATX Powersupply
Cooler Master CM 690 III


Many Thanks
Best Regards

Mark
 
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Aeacus
There's nothing else to suggest.
Either go with the build similar or same as i suggested or wait 2-3 months to get GTX 1080 Ti as Chugalug_ and jossrik suggested.
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Coming January 2017, Debuting At CES

The GTX 1080 Ti is planned for an initial debut in January 2017 with availability scheduled to trickle in soon after.
Click to expand...
source: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-launch-january/
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Aeacus

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How about this 4K and VR ready build.
(Color theme: black & red.)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card ($619.90 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME 650W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($151.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($79.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1671.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-26 07:29 EST-0500

Few words.

Reason why i picked this CPU: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html
Reason why i picked this CPU cooler: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181.html
For MoBo, went with MSI Z170A Gaming M5 that enables you to OC your K-series CPU. MoBo also has 2x M.2 SSD slots and nice black & red theme.
Put in 2x 8GB DDR4 RAM that you can OC thanks to the MoBo to run at speeds of 3000 Mhz.
For OS, put in an ultra fast M.2 SSD. Reason why i picked this SSD: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-ssds,3891.html
And for data storage, went with reliable HGST (Hitachi) 3TB HDD.
For GPU went with MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8G since it has Zero Frozr feature (Zero Frozr = no GPU fan spin until GPU reaches 60 degrees Celsius) and nice black & red theme to match the MoBo. Reason why i picked GTX 1080: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gpus,4380.html
To house the build, went with Corsair case that has latched and hinged side panel for easy access to the PC internals.
Your system's power plant comes directly from the best PSU OEM, Seasonic. Put in the best 600W range PSU there is. 80+ Titanium efficiency and fully modular design. Further reading: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html
And lastly, put in common Win 10 Home 64-bit.

If you look my Skylake build (specs in my signature) then you can find several matching components.
 
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No point upgrading at the moment, wait for the 1080tis to release next year and get two of those to SLI.
A 1080 is only a 30% improvement at a massive cost of $600.
Your rig is top of the line, don't worry.
Edit: Ignore that above post with the build entirely, silly to spend money like that, and the stuff is actually a downgrade save for the graphics card.
 
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I'ma second the wait for the Tis. That's what I'm doing. I had a 4790k and yes, the 6700k is an upgrade, but frames per second wise, they both handle things very well. The 270 boards are coming out somewhat soon as well as AMDs Zen, which may or may not be worth the wait. The 1080Ti is almost certainly worth the wait, it'll hopefully slot in where the 1080 is pricewise right now, well, the more expensive 1080s. Remember when the 980s were out at 700$ and then the 980Ti came out and filled the 700$ spot and the 980s went inbetween the 970 and the 980Ti where it rightly should be performance wise. Nix the 950 Pro as well from the recommended list. Had one, sold it beginning of Oct thinking the 960 Evo would be out. Still waiting, but it'll be a couple months from what I understand. Get the 960 Evo 512Gb, something like 40% faster than the 950 Pro and 50$ cheaper MSRP. Three months ago, upgrade if you feel the need. Waited til now, wait another month or so. You can game on the 980Ti @ 4k, I do, it's not all that bad, all of the current 4k monitors/tvs are gimped by HDMI or DP revision to a max of like 75FPS, so no need for a beefy 150 FPS when the transfer method is so limited. You need DP 1.3 for 120Hz, 1.4 maybe for 144Hz, HDMI 2.0 is only 60Hz, maybe 75Hz, and the monitors that can do 75 are sadly priced right now. I been looking.
 
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There's nothing else to suggest.
Either go with the build similar or same as i suggested or wait 2-3 months to get GTX 1080 Ti as Chugalug_ and jossrik suggested.
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Coming January 2017, Debuting At CES

The GTX 1080 Ti is planned for an initial debut in January 2017 with availability scheduled to trickle in soon after.
Click to expand...
source: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-launch-january/
 
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you should be getting a lot better than 20-30fps@1440p in the witcher 3 with a 4790k+980ti. i get like 60fps@1440p maxed out no hairworks. 83c with the gpu running at 1000/1075mhz is a temp issue causing throttling. i suggest you upgrade your case and/or cooling.
 
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The effective speed of i5-6600K is only 2% lower than i7-4790K and for you it is a massive downgrade? :ouch:
comparison: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6600K/2384vs3503

Also, my i5-6600K build is a suggestion and not a recommendation. If the 2% downgrade in effective speed is so massive then he should instead go for i7-6700K CPU since it has whopping 6% increase in effective speed over i7-4790K. :sarcastic:
comparison: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/2384vs3502
 
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Oml..
It's going from an 8 thread CPU with near identical single core performance to a 4 thread variant, there is no reasonable argument for that anyhow especially given games are now properly utilizing hyperthreading to a good extent....
A suggestion implies endorsement, not sure why else you would say it. :(
 
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Rather than bashing down my build suggestion, why not say the things as they are?
It would've been polite to say that the CPU in my suggested build has minor downgrade compared to the i7-4790K he already has.
But no, had to bash down my build suggestion, right? Feels like you have a grudge against i5-6600K.


Going from DDR3 RAM to DDR4 RAM is actually an upgrade. Just saying it in case you didn't know that already.
And same goes for going from 2.5" SSD to a M.2 SSD. I take it that you also didn't know that.
comparison: http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Pro-512GB-vs-Samsung-950-NVMe-PCIe-M2-256GB/3478vsm38570
 
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That's two drives from drastically different price points you're comparing there, the M.2 form factor does not actually increase speed as you say, it increases bandwidth as is evident through the 850 Evo or MX300 SATA and M.2 variants, thereby allowing for higher performance drives, but in no way making them faster.
I have nothing against the 6600k, I use it all the time in builds etc. it's just a statistical fact that the 4790k outperforms it.
It may be an upgrade in some areas, but ask yourself whether $1700 is worth it for DDR4 memory....
Also there's way more than a 2% difference between the 4790k and the 6600k, you might want to double check that.
 
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That is true that one can't really see the M.2 SSD being faster than regular 2.5" SSD. Difference is seen when handling larger files that takes time to read/write.

Average performance difference of 10% still doesn't make i7-4790K massively better than i5-6600K. I'd say i7-4790K is only slightly better.

For $1700 one just doesn't get DDR4 RAM, one gets the whole working PC that is up to the date.
For example, my Skylake costed me €2000. With the €500 i could've upgraded my Haswell to the level of my Skylake. Was the extra €1500 worth it for getting completely new set (including DDR4 RAM)? Yes.
Since i don't live alone, there is more than 1 person who uses the PC.
 
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