Asus B150 Pro gaming vs Asus B150-Plus
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This decimates both of them for $20 more, depending on where you're at.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($122.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $122.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-28 17:27 EST-0500
If you don't live in the US, the B150 PRO GAMING is better
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($122.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $122.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-28 17:27 EST-0500
If you don't live in the US, the B150 PRO GAMING is better
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Oh. The B150 PR GAMING is better because it has higher quality MOFSETs (with heat sinks). It also sports higher crossfire support (can do 2 or 4 as opposed to only 2) and looks nicer.
I wouldn't recommend either, however, because a H170 board can be had for a marginal amount extra and has more lanes, overclocking, and higher quality components usually).
I wouldn't recommend either, however, because a H170 board can be had for a marginal amount extra and has more lanes, overclocking, and higher quality components usually).
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Question from ariwebdev : "Which b150m series is the best for low budget workstation?"
As the title said, I want to know which one of the b150m series is the best for low budget workstation.
I want to choose from one of these mobos:
asus b150m pro gaming
asus b150m-plus
processor: i5 6500 3.2GHz
RAM: 2 x 8gb DDR4
It's primarily for programming which require some heavy softwares like android studio and mobile emulator and open them at the same time.
Also for graphic and video editing (not the too heavy one).
Which mobo you recommend me to use?
I am going to use the PC intensively, about 18 hours/day. So I need it to be durable.
Thank you,
Ari
Question from ariwebdev : "Which b150m series is the best for low budget workstation?"
As the title said, I want to know which one of the b150m series is the best for low budget workstation.
I want to choose from one of these mobos:
asus b150m pro gaming
asus b150m-plus
processor: i5 6500 3.2GHz
RAM: 2 x 8gb DDR4
It's primarily for programming which require some heavy softwares like android studio and mobile emulator and open them at the same time.
Also for graphic and video editing (not the too heavy one).
Which mobo you recommend me to use?
I am going to use the PC intensively, about 18 hours/day. So I need it to be durable.
Thank you,
Ari
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Now that it seems you are buying something, just because the board is called a workstation board does not mean its superior for a workstation. The businesses class B series chip sets offer things like constant data encryption and encoding.
What's your budget? Seeing what you want to do, you'll probably want a stronger CPU than GPU.
What's your budget? Seeing what you want to do, you'll probably want a stronger CPU than GPU.
LOL, yes. I get busted.
Those ATX series are too expensive for me, and I was misled to them while what I was looking for is the b150m series.
So, after about two weeks of research, I get closer to my final decision. Selecting mobo is what still confuse me much.
My current budget is between $500-$600. Need to make moneyfirst with the system I am going to build in order for me to be able to build the monster PC.
Here is what I found.
Processor: intel core i5-6500 3.2 GHz
Motherboard: Asus b150m-plus
RAM: Corsair vengeance LPX DDR4 16Gb (2x8Gb) - CMK16GX4M2A2666C16W
VGA: Built in vga
PSU: Antec VP Series 500w 80+
Optical drive: LG DVD RW SATA3
My questions:
1. Will that combination work without any problem or are there any component that should be replaced from the combination above?
2. If replace the asus b150m-plus with gigabyte h110m-ds2, will it make any difference on the system's performance? may be lower the speed or something else?
And lastly, Thank you very much for offering me your help. I almost creating new thread.
Those ATX series are too expensive for me, and I was misled to them while what I was looking for is the b150m series.
So, after about two weeks of research, I get closer to my final decision. Selecting mobo is what still confuse me much.
My current budget is between $500-$600. Need to make moneyfirst with the system I am going to build in order for me to be able to build the monster PC.
Here is what I found.
Processor: intel core i5-6500 3.2 GHz
Motherboard: Asus b150m-plus
RAM: Corsair vengeance LPX DDR4 16Gb (2x8Gb) - CMK16GX4M2A2666C16W
VGA: Built in vga
PSU: Antec VP Series 500w 80+
Optical drive: LG DVD RW SATA3
My questions:
1. Will that combination work without any problem or are there any component that should be replaced from the combination above?
2. If replace the asus b150m-plus with gigabyte h110m-ds2, will it make any difference on the system's performance? may be lower the speed or something else?
And lastly, Thank you very much for offering me your help. I almost creating new thread.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($191.91 @ Jet)
Motherboard: MSI B150M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($57.45 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 4GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ B&H)
Total: $520.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-29 16:49 EST-0500
We all get mislead sometimes. IGP are very weak, by choosing a cheaper mob I could include a vastly more powerful GPU.
1. your combo would work, but isnt optimal
2. no
Id elaborate but I goota run
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($191.91 @ Jet)
Motherboard: MSI B150M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($57.45 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 4GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ B&H)
Total: $520.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-29 16:49 EST-0500
We all get mislead sometimes. IGP are very weak, by choosing a cheaper mob I could include a vastly more powerful GPU.
1. your combo would work, but isnt optimal
2. no
Id elaborate but I goota run
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Your build isn't as good as can be for the money because you choose to go with too much RAM and for your purposes, and overpriced motherboard. The PSU I choose is similarly priced, has a greater capacity, and just plain better. Its newer, has better quality parts, and can even OC (not your CPU with this build, but your GPU for sure). 16 GB of RAM probably never would have been utilized, so why get that much? My motherboard is better because it is cheaper, because it doesn't include features you would never use. As a result of the RAM cut and different motherboard, I could include a better GPU (actually, a GPU at all). Any performance build requires a GPU. When using IGP, the RAM it used is the slower system memory, and is usually capped at using only 2 GB of it. The GPU sports 4 GB of far faster VRAM, which loads textures and pre-renders frames better.
That's awesome recommendation.
But I have serious problem when it comes to getting the components.
- not all component is available here, in my country.
- the price of gpus are far more expensive. the one you listed is three times more expensive. it's around $250 here.
- the mobo is only around $10 cheaper here. that made me considering h110m-ds2 from gigabyte instead of the b150m-plus. it is about $50 less.
I'm in Asia. If importing spare part can lesser the build's cost, then I prefer to do it.
I will go with the seasonic psu you recommended. it looks good.
I feel doubt about the durability of MSI boards, because of what people tolds. That make me don't want to include it in my list. This is the first time I build a PC, so people words are matter for me in making decision, because I know too little about what I do.
But I have serious problem when it comes to getting the components.
- not all component is available here, in my country.
- the price of gpus are far more expensive. the one you listed is three times more expensive. it's around $250 here.
- the mobo is only around $10 cheaper here. that made me considering h110m-ds2 from gigabyte instead of the b150m-plus. it is about $50 less.
I'm in Asia. If importing spare part can lesser the build's cost, then I prefer to do it.
I will go with the seasonic psu you recommended. it looks good.
I feel doubt about the durability of MSI boards, because of what people tolds. That make me don't want to include it in my list. This is the first time I build a PC, so people words are matter for me in making decision, because I know too little about what I do.
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I see. Where will you be buying from (websites, local stores, ect.)? If I can see the prices there (maybe say the budget in the currency you'll be buying in (I assumed you were in America becuase because you said the price in $$$)).
That motherboard is good, we just have to be sure the TDP of our CPU doent exceed 70W becuase it has no MOFSET heatsinks, it's still a good choice, so we know thats in,
You included the i5 in your origninal parts list, so that will probably work,
The Seasonic will work (unless I misunderstood you),
Whats the price difference between 16 and 8 GB of RAM?
Will you be reusing anything? We need a hard drive and Windows for sure.
That motherboard is good, we just have to be sure the TDP of our CPU doent exceed 70W becuase it has no MOFSET heatsinks, it's still a good choice, so we know thats in,
You included the i5 in your origninal parts list, so that will probably work,
The Seasonic will work (unless I misunderstood you),
Whats the price difference between 16 and 8 GB of RAM?
Will you be reusing anything? We need a hard drive and Windows for sure.
I will buy on local store. Still don't trust much to online store here. Was buying an electronic device and they sent me bad product. And so with others who bought non electronic stuff.
What is TDP and MOFSET heatsinks? and how to measure that TDP?
The price differences of RAM is vary, depend on the brand and type.
16gb of RAM is usually no more than 2 times of 8gb ram's price with the same brand and type.
Yes. I will reuse my monitor and power stabilizer. My previous hard drive was DDR2, so I can't reuse it.
here is the list of motherboards I refering to. http://viraindo.com/motherboard.html
That's the cheapest store I can find in my province. It offers both online and offline shopping. It's in Indonesian language.
There are other list of components' price links on its homepage. If you are interested, then just go to its homepage. "Harga" mean "Price" in English.
What is TDP and MOFSET heatsinks? and how to measure that TDP?
The price differences of RAM is vary, depend on the brand and type.
16gb of RAM is usually no more than 2 times of 8gb ram's price with the same brand and type.
Yes. I will reuse my monitor and power stabilizer. My previous hard drive was DDR2, so I can't reuse it.
here is the list of motherboards I refering to. http://viraindo.com/motherboard.html
That's the cheapest store I can find in my province. It offers both online and offline shopping. It's in Indonesian language.
There are other list of components' price links on its homepage. If you are interested, then just go to its homepage. "Harga" mean "Price" in English.
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TDP is "Thermal Design Power", it's the total wattage of the CPU. TDP is given in the processors spec sheet. More wattage = more heat, which brings us to the next question.
MOFSET was supposed to say MOSFET, I spelled it wrong. MOFSETs (Metal-Oxide Semiconductor Field-Effect Transistor) are the modules on the motherboard responsible for taking the power from the 12v rail and converting in to the proper amperage and voltage the CPU requires at any given time. They are extremely important is longevity, overclocking, and not starting fires. Multi phase power designs consist of many MOFSETs, allowing each one to do some of the conversion and let the next do some and so on. This reduces the stress on each one and heat produced by each. High quality MOFSETs don't light on fire (this only happens under extreme OC or old AMD 125W chips, don't worry) and can do the work of many cheaper ones, but will generate more heat than each individual one causing it to wear out faster. You would only need MOSFET heat sinks if your TDP reaches the individual chips max (70 is a general number) so that the heat can dissipate, allowing more life from your motherboard.
As for RAM, DDR4 2133 is plenty, the 3400 clocks are for super 3D rendering PCs.
The B150 PRO GAMING is the better motherboard. See If you use the i5 from before, and 8 GB of RAM, will you be able to squeeze any GPU in there?
MOFSET was supposed to say MOSFET, I spelled it wrong. MOFSETs (Metal-Oxide Semiconductor Field-Effect Transistor) are the modules on the motherboard responsible for taking the power from the 12v rail and converting in to the proper amperage and voltage the CPU requires at any given time. They are extremely important is longevity, overclocking, and not starting fires. Multi phase power designs consist of many MOFSETs, allowing each one to do some of the conversion and let the next do some and so on. This reduces the stress on each one and heat produced by each. High quality MOFSETs don't light on fire (this only happens under extreme OC or old AMD 125W chips, don't worry) and can do the work of many cheaper ones, but will generate more heat than each individual one causing it to wear out faster. You would only need MOSFET heat sinks if your TDP reaches the individual chips max (70 is a general number) so that the heat can dissipate, allowing more life from your motherboard.
As for RAM, DDR4 2133 is plenty, the 3400 clocks are for super 3D rendering PCs.
The B150 PRO GAMING is the better motherboard. See If you use the i5 from before, and 8 GB of RAM, will you be able to squeeze any GPU in there?
does tdp can increase unexpectedly?
how about the b150m pro gaming? is that also better than b150m-plus?
I don't think about adding a standalone gpu atm, because the least which is better than intel hd graphics 530 seem still cost much for my current budget, and require to sacrifice the ram. I am not going to dedicate this pc for gaming neither 3d rendering, so I don't think that I need to worry much about GPU atm.
how about the b150m pro gaming? is that also better than b150m-plus?
I don't think about adding a standalone gpu atm, because the least which is better than intel hd graphics 530 seem still cost much for my current budget, and require to sacrifice the ram. I am not going to dedicate this pc for gaming neither 3d rendering, so I don't think that I need to worry much about GPU atm.
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It would haelp with teh video eediting, it would be ale to play it smoother and load it fster. Because it doesn't fit, I guess you can do without.
TDP increases. but not unexpectedly. Each CPU has a TDP rating, wich is the most it can be. For the i5 6500, it's 65W, meaning it will never use more powewr than 65W.
The B150 PRO Gaming has moare fatures, making it a better board.
So you want to use the B15 PRO Gaming, i5 6500, the intigrated graphics,a Seasonic S1211 PSU, and 16 GB of RAM? Unless I missed soewthing that sounds good.
TDP increases. but not unexpectedly. Each CPU has a TDP rating, wich is the most it can be. For the i5 6500, it's 65W, meaning it will never use more powewr than 65W.
The B150 PRO Gaming has moare fatures, making it a better board.
So you want to use the B15 PRO Gaming, i5 6500, the intigrated graphics,a Seasonic S1211 PSU, and 16 GB of RAM? Unless I missed soewthing that sounds good.
No. It is too expensive. After thinking much for over 100 years (it's only several days actually), I will just go with the least board and forget the luxuries for now. Don't want to overthink more.
By the grace of God, I will get that Super 3D Rendering PC later with this PC:
Processor: intel core i5-6500 3.2 GHz
Motherboard: Asus h110m-a
RAM: Corsair vengeance LPX DDR4 16Gb (2x8Gb) - CMK16GX4M2A2666C16
VGA: Built in vga
PSU: The most reliable cheapo psu.
Optical drive: LG DVD RW SATA3
By the grace of God, I will get that Super 3D Rendering PC later with this PC:
Processor: intel core i5-6500 3.2 GHz
Motherboard: Asus h110m-a
RAM: Corsair vengeance LPX DDR4 16Gb (2x8Gb) - CMK16GX4M2A2666C16
VGA: Built in vga
PSU: The most reliable cheapo psu.
Optical drive: LG DVD RW SATA3
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