Total Noob, need some basic minor walkthrough as I travel through this endeavor.

cuts2thebone

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Let me start off by saying I have not game on PC since Diablo II back in 2004 when I was going to college. I've been console pretty much my whole life till basically this year where I saw GTA5 on 4k and it just completely intrigued me. So I ended up building my first pc (extremely cool btw). My build is

I7-6700K
MS Gaming Xpower Titanium Edition
Nvidia GTX 1080 Founders Edition
1 SSD 500GB samsung 850 EVO
2 SSD 750 MX300 Crucial
4x6 TB WD reds (Plex storage)
Phanteks Enthoo Evole (silver)
Corsair H110I water cooler
AX760 power supply

Peripherals are

Dell 27k P2715q (contemplating going with a Samsung KU6300 40inch)
G502
Corsair K70 full RGB
NZXT lighting kit

So the questions, I have a lot of them and I'm not sure where to start. I have one game right now that is GOW4. The one thing I noticed right away playing in 4k, its only running at 30FPS, everything is in ultra base off the recommended settings. Game looks great, but I know PC gamers have this magical 60 FPS they all try achieve. All the research I found says a GTX1080 should be able to hit higher FPS. Is there something wrong that I'm doing, even when I bring down to 2560x1440, still the same rate at roughly 30 FPS. Do I need to overclock my GPU, and is it as simple as sliding MHZ slider on my CAM app?

This are stupid questions...

Where do you guys store all your games? I download the GOW4 and it took up 80GBs, its not gonna be long before I run out of space on my all three of my SSD?

Are all the games activated all over the place, steam, origin.GOW4 through Microsoft. There is no central location of where all these games come from? Are they just basically vendor in the console world, where you buy your games. No need for them once you buy the game from the game?

Are PC games resellable?

More questions with my GPU, is it bad that I leave my PC on all the time since I am running plex. Ever since I put the GPU in, I can hear more fan noise. Still really quiet, but before without the GPU the computer was dead silent. Is there anyways to control the fan speed without hurting the cooling of the GPU? I'm waiting for the skylake E to come out so I can build for my main PC and this current build will be for plex.

Last but not least, is this the right forum for PC gaming? is there a more dedicated forum for PC gamers to talk about games, issues and settings with games. Or is this mainly a hardware forum. Thanks any help I can get.


 
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From what I can tell, your GTX 1080 card has 1 display port v1.4 and your Dell monitor has 1 display port. Now you only need to buy a DP cable and give it a try.

You can store most games on an external HDD. Some games, e.g. from Microsoft Store, will require a system HDD to download. But all my AAA titles from Steam and Ubisoft can be directed to any HDD I choose.

If you lose or delete a game on your system, Steam, or the dedicated developer hub, still has you on record as the legitimate owner. You just need to re-download the game. I accidentally formatted my external HDD once, and it took me the better part of 2 weeks to restore my library. On your Steam page, the 'missing' games will display greyed out. Once you re-download a game...

BringerOfTea

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Have you checked the temps on you graphics card? the founders edtion have a cooler which makes them run a bit hotter than 3party ones...(MSI. ASUS)

Use something like MSI afterburner to monitor you gpu temps and see if it gets too hot and you are experiencing throttleing( the gpu getting too hot and therefore slowing down in order to not damage it self) you can also use MSI afterburner to control the fan speed, but this might cause it to be hotter when idle...

Lets start there, quite the essay you've written.

;)

 

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- Are you using a display port cable to your monitor? Your Intel i7 6700K supports 4K @ 60Hz via the display port only. If you use an HDMI cable you're down to 24Hz. (The CPU only supports HDMI 1.4).

- I store all my games on a 2TB external HDD. Such devices are fairly affordable and offer added mobility for gaming.

- Your games are activated or authorized via a game launcher from e.g. Steam or UbiSoft that you download. For a desktop build, that's less relevant because you're can't rip out an internal HDD and expect it to work elsewhere. For a laptop, though, it means you can use an external HDD with any laptop that has a game launcher installed. If you use an external HDD with your desktop, you get the same gaming mobility as a laptop.

- If the PC game came on a DVD with a product key, it can be traded like anything else. For a downloaded game, paid for by e.g. PayPal, I don't think this is technically possible. And if it is possible, it's most likely illegal. Of course, you could spend an afternoon reading through the 'Terms and Conditions' of the game.

- As for gaming forums, well Yes and No. Tom's Hardware is a very comprehensive forum covering almost all aspects of using and living with computers, and lots of other things. I'm sure you will find hard-core gamers with expert knowledge here, but I'm equally sure there are numerous other online forums with a far more specialized focus.

I prefer a forum like Tom's precisely because I can get all types of answers, ranging from very curt, one-word replies that often make little sense (to me) all the way to extensive, step-by-step responses that reflect the fact that not everyone with a computer must be a computer geek.

Happy gaming,
GreyCatz.
 

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Thank you very much for the detailed respond. No I am not using a display port. I assume the display port goes to graphics card, correct?

Also, can you move all your games to one location, steam, microsoft and uplay. I just want to everything group together. Also, If i somehow delete the game do I lose the game for it forever or once I buy it from a place even if relieve my hard drive space, I can always go back and re download it?

thanks again for all the help.

 

GreyCatz

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From what I can tell, your GTX 1080 card has 1 display port v1.4 and your Dell monitor has 1 display port. Now you only need to buy a DP cable and give it a try.

You can store most games on an external HDD. Some games, e.g. from Microsoft Store, will require a system HDD to download. But all my AAA titles from Steam and Ubisoft can be directed to any HDD I choose.

If you lose or delete a game on your system, Steam, or the dedicated developer hub, still has you on record as the legitimate owner. You just need to re-download the game. I accidentally formatted my external HDD once, and it took me the better part of 2 weeks to restore my library. On your Steam page, the 'missing' games will display greyed out. Once you re-download a game, it will light up.

This is one of the intended benefits of game hubs like Steam. If you're prone to paranoia, you may not like the close interconnection and detailed information that this platform involves. But it's up to you.
 
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A Display port cable is the solution to your FPS issue, taken straight from your monitors tech specs:

Native Resolution

4K 3840 x 2160 ( DisplayPort: 60 Hz, HDMI: 30 Hz )

Storage issue: You have a large amount of storage. Your not gonna run out of game storage space anytime soon, games like GOW4 are outliers, and can probably be modded down to smaller file sizes vastly. The game is probably like 40Gbs of uncompressed audio files, they do this now to hinder piracy by making PC games very huge and thus harder to download and store for pirates who usually have very cheap systems or limited internet connections anyways. I'm sure someone out there has compressed the audio files down and released them so you can replace yours and decrease the storage space.

Also you can uninstall games you haven't played recently. I've do that when i get bored every once in a while. Steam makes it easy my letting me see the last time I played a game, and sort them by that as well.

Game acquisition: There's no central place they're activated from, they're all activated and managed by the program you bought them from. Steam, Origin, Uplay, Microsoft Store, GoG are all separate and the games are all tied to their individual places, but the advantage is you can always uninstall and reinstall them easily after purchasing. Even games you purchase from like Amazon or other retail outlets more likely than not will still require you to use a service like Steam or Origin to activate (and quite possibly download) the game.

Reselling: Nowadays, no. They're one use licenses that get tied to your account for the previously mentioned services.

Gpu usage: From what I can tell, Plex shouldn't be using your GPU, so you should check to see if it's actually the GPU making the increased fan noise or not. GPUs do generate a lot of heat, but not when idle usually, you may have some power settings you can change to make it not always be running if it is. Check in Nvidia Control Panel and use Cortana to search for Power Settings and make sure you're not on High performance. It's possible with the the GPu in there now the CPU fan has to work harder to cool the CPU.

Gaming Forums: Tom's Hardware is more of a "trouble shooting" forum than a real game discussion forum. And typically it's for broad game problems not individual ones.
Better places to discuss games:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/
The Steam community forum: http://steamcommunity.com/home
The Steam community for a specific game you bought on steam (or that is also available on steam): i.e. Dishonored 2 http://steamcommunity.com/app/403640/discussions/
Or the games own website's forums: https://gearsofwar.com/en-us/forums