Is It Worth Putting FX5500 on Asus H170?

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I have this FX5500 and I have an Asus H170 without a card.

So the Asus is running on onboard video which Belarc tells me is Intel HD Graphics 530.

Would it be worth going through the hassle of putting this FX5500 in there? Will it make an improvement?

 
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An FX5500?
Something like this? With 256MB video ram?
https://www.amazon.com/Nvidia-Geforce-FX5500-128-bit-TV-Out/dp/B000TCS7Y0

That's not really applicable for any system in the last decade.
 
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If you mean an nvidia fx 5500 then no. That card is at least 10x worse than the hd 530 graphics.
 
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Yep, that's what I mean. 10x worse? Wow. Thanks for the info.

What's the first card I could find, going up the scale from worst to best, that would better the intal graphics? Or in other words, where in the scale are they?

And this card used to be in an Asrock Z77. Was it a waste in there, too?


 
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Yes it was wasted there too. The HD 530 graphics is from the CPU rather than motherboard (obviously the motherboard is what you use to connect to it).
An equivalent GPU would be something like a GT 730, so something slightly better would be a GT 740 or an AMD R7 250. Or if you want something quite a bit better then you're looking at a GTX 750Ti or the more modern 1050Ti.

 
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Ha... isn't that amazing? And we had a year of endless inexplicable lockups of the computer which finally ended when we took it out.

There's no mistake? It was/is an Intel Core i3 2130 and the board as Asrock Z77 Pro-4M?

I've just forked out for a 1050 so I hope it is quite a bit better. :)

How do you guys who know your way around do it?

There's some place I can go and find all the boards listed in order of ability or somesuch - like a list I've seen (http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu?_ga=1.223065499.1473584438.1477539639 ) which is good but not, I think, very complete - all vendors, all models.

Or you have to look in many places and keep the info in your head - like 'learn' (god forbid) ?

Ah... nearly slipped my notice. The HD 530 graphics is from the CPU? That's on my Asus? It has no 'onboard' graphics? I thought they were onboard.

And the Asrock? It's graphics are also from the cpu?

edit: Yep. I just googled and learned something. That's the future. A cpu is now a cpu+gpu. Far out. :)
and better than 80% of cards said the intel man....

 
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The GTX 1050 is a good GPU for it's price, and has great performance for such low power consumption. Also, it supports the latest APIs (DX11 & DX12), your old card didn't support these so there is no way you could've run modern games without getting a error message.

As for how we know this stuff? Talking for myself, I'm a gamer and I like to keep up to date with components, especially GPUs. I watch 10 to 20 videos a week on Youtube from reviews comparing the latest GPUs.

I have no idea what the futuremark webpage was comparing, because the HD 530 is much better than some of those other GPUs on the list.

And yeah, modern Intel CPUs also contain a GPU, this is your "integrated" graphics, or technically "processor" graphics that your motherboard supports.

 
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I just got interested in computers when I was 12 and watched youtubers like linustechtips, tech of tomorrow and such and slowly my knowledge expanded. I then took the IT course in my school and it was so boring because I already knew everything :p and now I'm a soon to be 3d artist for games.
 
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Thanks for the comments, guys.

DX11 etc., are API's? Application Programming Interfaces? I didn't realise that.

So all this graphics on the cpu means we should think twice about buying graphics cards?

I paid $200 for this 1050. Paid at least $100 for the cpu. Now how about I was thinking of doing that again - I'd be better off putting $300 into a better more modern cpu wouldn't I?

And improving old machines, which I do a bit of, trying to keep the family's computers up and running where we can't afford to buy everyone a really good machine - instead of investing in a card it'd better to put that money into a cpu and get improved graphics come along with it.

Except that idea won't work, I suppose, because most of the time a modern cpu won't go into the socket. hmm.

but a modern board. don't plan on cpu + gpu, plan on just the best cpu...
 
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Integrated graphics are much better than they used to be, and actually usable for light gaming. However, if you plan to run any games with modern graphics then you will still need to pony up for a 'dedicated' GPU.

By the way, did you pay US$200 for the 1050? Next time, check out www.pcpartpicker.com. I'm seeing GTX 1050's on that site starting at around US$110. Or just ask on this forum for some recommendations.
 
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Everything depends on what you or someone else uses the pc for. Just webbrowisn,watching a movie and doing some officework = intel pentium + cheap motherboard + 8 gb of ram and done. The i3 is for if they need something with a bit more power if they lets say do some Photoshop. An i5 is used when you start doing video editing or more demanding gaprhical work that is also when you want to get a gpu as the integrated graphics won't do their job good enough anymore. An i7 is for the high end users who do everything I mentioned here but more intense than anybody.

Btw 200$ is waaay to much for an 1050. Btw what do you don on your pc? If a fx 5500 got you through all these years then a gpu wasn't needed I guess?
Also before you start upgrading and things just ask here on the forum we will make sure you make a smart buy and don't waste money.

Another thing intel has multiple chip sets for their motherboards (currently these are :)
h110: basic and cheap nothing fancy
h150: some more ports and expansion capability's
h170: all the fancy things the z170 boards have but you can't overclock K series cpu's
z170: the complete package with overclocking and all.

The higher you go the more expensive they get. Usually a h110 does the job.
 
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Yep. I paid $AU210.12 all up, including post and pack.

We've got a poor exchange rate right now. $AU100 = $US75 so that's only about $US150.

An extra $US40. Or more.

It is a healthy markup isn't it? We have big profits being made in Australia by computer hardware/software retailers.

Books, too. For a while there I was always anxiously looking to make a contact in the USA who'd help me out by buying books and things for me (with my money) and then mailing them to me.

Because the costs of even such as Amazon make things just too expensive.

It's all about population. You've got 300million. We've got 20million.

Some time in the future Indonesia is going to come online, though, hopefully with Asia's traditional disregard for our money grabbing rules and regulations intended to maximise big profits for the big companies.

And they'll do things like make copies. And sell them to us cheap. From just across the water there. Lovely. :)

p.s. thanks for the link to that site. I was looking for just something like that. I was actually searching for a site I found months ago where some Indian guy puts up build ideas and answers requests and discusses builds and stuff. Can't find it.

So your site comes in just when I want it. Great.
 
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When books are expensive you can get e-books. I know they are not the same I do too like holding them in my hand but sometimes you've got to make do with what you can afford.
 
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