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I'm trying to activate my ethernet ports in my house. My living room is where the Verizon Fios router is located.

The pictures are where all the ethernet ports are connected to. I've tried attaching a switch and cross over adapter, as your can see in the picture. The setup below only works for the family room port in the living room. Can't get the basement working.

Any help is appreciated!!

Port 1: Yellow cable is between switch and "Feed", port 1.

Port 3: White cable is between switch and "Family room" (where router is located). Family room ethernet port is hot and is connected to the verizon fios router.

Port 5: "Rec" room / basement and switch. I placed a cross over adapter but that doesn't seem to work. This is where I'm trying to get the ethernet port activated.

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Ralston18
Very helpful - there is still quite a bit of sorting out to be done.

No concern about being a noob - being willing to learn is the key to most things.

Bite size pieces now - for my sake as much as yours.

Does the following link correct match the User Guide for your Verizon FiOS-G1100?

http://www.verizon.com/about/sites/default/files/fios-qgr-userguide140925.pdf

What is the other beige Verizon box with "Power Check" light shown laying in the bottom of the utility box.

For the moment the immediate network connectivity is, as I follow it all:

Verizon ISP ---- coax (not fiber) ----> Verizon G1100 Router [LAN]----yellow cable ----> Wall jack ------blue cable ----->"Feed" in the wall cabinet.

Then "Feed" is spliced in via a wall jack...
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A simple overall diagram will be helpful. The photograph certainly helps - good start.

TPLink Model number is? Verizon Router Make and Model?

What and where (for example) is Feed 1?

With respect to the photograph there are a number of things to be addressed:

1) Wall jacks are being used on the blue cables (infrastructure?) to the patch cables on the TPLink Switch. The terminations are not at all correct and maintaining solid connectivity via the punchdowns is not going to work with the patch cables weight and "dangling" around. It appears that one wire (Port 3) may not even be connected. However, it looks silvery enough to be some braided conductor.

The female port connectors at the end of the blue cables are designed to be in wall outlet box. What probably should be in that location is a patch panel.

If the corresponding room/walljack ethernet ports are in the same condition - there will be more problems.

2) All of the cables are coiled and held together via tie-wraps and twist ties. Those can easily be too tight and cause crimping etc. causing connecticvity problems.

3) With modern devices (modems, routers, switches) you should not need adapters and crossover cables.

4) Not clear if all of the cables are truly Cat 5 (or better) ethernet cables. Can you read the specifications on those cables. Blue may be Cat6....

Normally connectivity would be something like this:

Verizon ISP -- fiber----> Verizon Router ----ethernet cables -----> patch panel ------> Infrastructure (blue cables) to room wall jacks -----> ethernet cable to device.

The router should be where the photograph was taken but I realize that you may have had no choice in that matter.

So what you are trying to do then is probably something like this.

Verizon ISP ---- fiber --->Verizon Router -------> Switch ------>patch panel -------> infrastructure (blue) cables to other room wall jacks ----ethernet cable --->device.

It does matter what ports are being used (WAN, LAN) so keep track of what ports go to which wires etc.

How to start:

1) Google "Home network diagrams with patch panel". You can vary the wording as you learn. Look for images and diagrams to get a sense of the design and the terminology.

2) Sketch out your own diagram as you see things with respect to your home layout and your connection requirments.

The idea being that once you have a sketch/plan then we can start on putting it together where necessary and addressing the connectivity issues involved.

Once the plan is in place then hopefully other forum members can comment and make suggestions. Especially important if I miss something or otherwise make a mistake.

The good news being is that you have one working port for the "family room port in the living room". Not sure about the phrasing per se but at least you know that Verizon is apparently upholding its end of the bargain and that there is service to and within (be it limited for the moment) your home.
 
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Thanks Ralston, since then, I've changed all the cables back to where Verizon originally put them and removed the switch. So here's a picture of the original setup Verizon did.

My current Verizon router is the Model No FiOS-G1100, and the switch I was using was a TP-Link 5-Port Fast Ethernet Desktop Switch (TL-SF1005D).

The blue cables are cat6 cables and are the ones that are part of the infrastructure of the house. Basically trying to get connectivity to the rest of them.

We also have phone service which may be the purple cables.

Also, I believe the the patch panel is at the top. Also looks like the technician crimped the "feed" to the "family" room blue cables, which I'm guessing why he didn't use the patch panel.

Sorry about the inconsistent terms, I'm still a noob, and trying to learn as I go. Thanks again for all your assistance.

Link to new pictures, change back to original Verizon setup: https://goo.gl/photos/kBzHC8AcaiX5wutm9
 
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Very helpful - there is still quite a bit of sorting out to be done.

No concern about being a noob - being willing to learn is the key to most things.

Bite size pieces now - for my sake as much as yours.

Does the following link correct match the User Guide for your Verizon FiOS-G1100?

http://www.verizon.com/about/sites/default/files/fios-qgr-userguide140925.pdf

What is the other beige Verizon box with "Power Check" light shown laying in the bottom of the utility box.

For the moment the immediate network connectivity is, as I follow it all:

Verizon ISP ---- coax (not fiber) ----> Verizon G1100 Router [LAN]----yellow cable ----> Wall jack ------blue cable ----->"Feed" in the wall cabinet.

Then "Feed" is spliced in via a wall jack and the coiled yellow cable connects that wall jack to another spliced on wall jack serving some other room/location. I do not see a patch panel for the blue (ethernet) cables. It would be similar to the telphone patch panel with the purple wires. (Google "home network media center" - should find some images accordingly. )

(I also see a green "Feed" cable - where does that cable lead?)

How many blue cables going to room wall jacks do you have? By any chance are those dual wall jacks? Meaning two ports: one for ethernet, one for telephone. Telephone connections would likewise be from the wall cabinet to the wall jack via the purple cables.

Could even be some coax (TV) connections as well as part of the wall jack configuration within the individual room wall plates. (I can see the cable/coax TV connections via the silver splitter box have the input and 8 labeled outputs. All TV's okay I trust?)

One quick question: is it at all viable that the Verizon Router can be moved? E.g., somewhere very near your wiring cabinet.

The wall cabinet in your photographs is very unfinished. When finished there will be three distribution areas:

1) Coax TV,
2) Telephone, and
3) Ethernet.

EDIT: Possible 4) Any built-in home/audio wiring? Did not note any such wiring per se but felt it best to edit in the question.

1) Coax seems to be in the best shape - just need to secure the dangling splitter. 2) Telephone is likewise pretty much in place and its patch panel is not dangling. Seems to be shy of telephone connections. 3) Ethernet: needs a patch panel, proper connections, and runs to each room's wall jack. Those connections must be checked as well.

For the moment, not sure how much work will be needed per se. However, if you are at all handy there is a good chance you can do most of the work if you wish to do so. Just takes some time and care once all is untangled.

 
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