Advice welcome on my first build

zzombo

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Rosewill Nighthawk 117 case
Gigabyte Z170X Gaming G1 mobo I really fell for this one
Intel core I7 6700k CPU
G.Skill's trident z 32gb ddr4-3000 memory (may add more later)
AMD Radeon R7 360 (Want to upgrade this as funds become available)
MyDigitalSSD BPX 120gb (For OS and apps)
Western Digital blue 1Tb hdd
Seagate 1Tb hdd
Noctua NH-D14 cooling
Seasonic prime titanium 750 PSU
Pioneer BDR-2209 Blu-ray burner
Transcend RDF9 card reader
Keyboard mouse
Windows 10 home 64 bit

Thanks for any advice. I've never done this before. Just hope all of these components are compatible.
 
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I also wanted to give a build suggestion. I chose this case, because I noticed it had an hard drive docking bay.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($155.34 @ Jet)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($99.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($124.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.98 @...
Your build is compatible, and will work.
But... I would do some things differently.

1. 120gb is just too small for a windows "C" drive. Many things default to the C drive. when it fills up you will lose speed and endurance. 240gb should be minimum. If you can go 500gb, you may never need a hard drive at all.
I suggest you omit the HDD until you actually need the space for storage.
Even then, WD will be more reliable.
Also, today, buy only Samsung evo for reliability and performance.

2. I7-6700K needs an aftermarket cooler. NH-D14 is a very good cooler, but it is HUGE.
I suggest a noctua NH-U12s or NH-U14s.
The s variants are re-engineered with an offset to clear the backplates of graphics cards in slot 1. Also, they will clear ram with tall heat spreaders like the tridentz.

3. Ram is sold in kits for a reason.
A motherboard must manage all the ram using the same specs of voltage, cas and speed.
Ram from the same vendor and part number can be made up of differing manufacturing components over time.
Some motherboards can be very sensitive to this.
This is more difficult when 4 sticks are involved.
That is why ram vendors will NOT support ram that is not bought in one kit.
It is safer to get what you need up front in one kit.
I really doubt that you would ever benefit from more than 32gb unless you will run some ram oriented apps.

Then, there is the issue of performance. It turns out that real app performance is not impacted by ram speed.
Here is a ram scaling report:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1478-page1.html

Skylake is dual channel, regardless if you have 4 sticks.
I suggest a 2 x 16gb kit of ddr4 2400 speed.

On the psu:
Seasonic is outstanding quality. 750w is sufficient to power GTX1080 sli.
But, I do not recommend planning on sli if a single card will do the job.
You get exposed to screen tearing, stuttering, and non support with dual gpu.
Better to plan in an eventual upgrade to a single great card. TitanX will run on 600w.
I have no problem with 750w.
But, you will never recoup the extra cost of a platinum or titanium rated psu.
Seasonic X750 would be very good.

 

zzombo

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Sorry guys, been working today. Just now had a chance to see your advice. First Logain, my budget is in the 2000 to 2200 USD range. 2nd Turkey3 scratch. Yes I actually was thinking if I got a motherboard like the gaming G1 and a power supply like the 750W, I would be good to go into the future if I want to upgrade. @ g unit, yes you are right. I guess I am mis managing my funds. I wasn't really certain how much ram I would need so I thought, hey, go big or go home lol. I was thinking if I had a ton of ram maybe I would be ready to deal with whatever comes my way for a long time. @ geofelt, I will heed your advice about my ssd. Since I am so new to all of this, I still don't know what I'm doing. I'm tech savvy enough to build a pc with all of the information that's available on Tomshardware and ornery places on the Web but I know I've got a LOT to learn. I had read in a couple of places that an ssd wears out faster than an hdd so I thought I would get a small ssd just to see how it goes and then later if it dies on me I could always fall back on one of my internal hdds. I did not realize how big the Noctua NH-D14 is. Thank you for the advice. I will adjust my plans accordingly and get one of the others that you recommend. To be quite honest, the way I picked my parts was just by reading through the articles on Tomshardware and whatever they said was the best components are what I went with lol. I knew I could never afford to get every single one of the editors choice parts on the list because it would be way too expensive, so I picked out the gaming G1 mb and the 6700k and the eatx compatible case and then when I picked all the rest of my components I scanned tomshardware list of the best in each category and just picked the 2nd or 3rd best because it was less expensive. I was thinking I could go back later as I get more money and upgrade those parts.

As to what my goal is with this pc? WellMy wife and I have an old Dell inspiron 530 that we've had so long I can't even remember how long. I recently discovered Tom's hardware and have been doing some research on building from scratch. To be quite honest, although I probably will never play a lot of graphically intensive games on it, I still want to build a powerhouse gaming machine. My son and daughter will probably be the ones who do the intense gaming. I think what really got me started on this quest was when my son wanted to play Civ beyond earth (He's also a skyrim and black ops fan) and we bought him the game and it wouldn't even begin to play on the old inspiron. So then I went out and bought a graphics card and he was actually able to play the game with a few graphical glitches. One of the top things my wife and I will be doing on it is surfing the web. She loves her Facebook and EBay. My wife loves to get creative with her creatacard program. She's also a nurse and does a lot of schedules and charts. I use the PC a lot for modding Wii and rooting my phone's.
I also like to run emulators, process audio and video (occasionally) Burn Cd's, DVD's and Blu-ray, Run Tor network, do some p2p and lots of other stuff.
Last but not least I want to build a PC that will still be viable for years to come.
Thank you all for helping me. I really appreciate it
 

g-unit1111

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That's completely false. If you're playing games and you're not making use of VR, 4K, or anything that would require the extra horsepower, you don't need 64GB of RAM, that's a complete waste of money. I also think things like BD-Rs and card readers are wastes of money anymore with cloud and streaming becoming the norm. It's built into Windows 10.

I had read in a couple of places that an ssd wears out faster than an hdd so I thought I would get a small ssd just to see how it goes and then later if it dies on me I could always fall back on one of my internal hdds.

That used to be true. As V-NAND improves with each generation SSDs get better with each generation. What was true 5 years ago in regards to SSDs is not true anymore.

I knew I could never afford to get every single one of the editors choice parts on the list because it would be way too expensive, so I picked out the gaming G1 mb and the 6700k and the eatx compatible case and then when I picked all the rest of my components I scanned tomshardware list of the best in each category and just picked the 2nd or 3rd best because it was less expensive. I was thinking I could go back later as I get more money and upgrade those parts.

That's not always the best approach. The best approach is to get informed opinions and get the hardware that you want to get. An editor's choice award on a site like this earns a lot of credibility but every manufacturer has flaws. Nobody is perfect.

This is what I would suggest for $2K:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Extreme6+ ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($98.11 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card ($664.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $1775.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-05 19:21 EST-0500

That gives you $250 left over for whatever you need.
 

logainofhades

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I also wanted to give a build suggestion. I chose this case, because I noticed it had an hard drive docking bay.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($155.34 @ Jet)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($99.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($124.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.98 @ PCM)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($597.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Overseer RX-I ATX Full Tower Case ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($90.72 @ B&H)
Total: $1765.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-06 09:29 EST-0500

 
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zzombo

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Thank you Logain. I really appreciate you and G unit for posting those builds and I would appreciate and welcome anyone else who would like to post one. Thank you all.
@ Logain, I noticed the mobo you posted is a gaming 5. I can't explain why but there's something about the gigabyte gaming mobos that I really like. I chose the G1 as my ultimate favorite but it IS way expensive. I had drawn up a couple of other potential builds that were less expensive just in case my wife did not approve of a 2000 dollar build. One of them weighed in at just under 1000. That one had a gaming 7 mobo. One of the things I like about the 7 and G1 is LED light trace path. Yes I know they do nothing to enhance performance but they sure look cool. Lol.
So anyways, can you please tell me what are the true performance related differences between the gaming 5, 7, G1 and (G units) ASRock extreme 6+?
Thank you
Oh and as far as the high wattage psu that I chose, I was just thinking that if I start getting into this gaming rig building as a full time hobby, maybe I can use the Xtra wattage on future builds that may require it
 

logainofhades

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$10 difference, between the 750w G2, and the 850W G2, and headroom for overclocking, and potential SLI. I know you love your low wattage units, but I would rather buy once, and not worry about needing more, later.
 

zzombo

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That's kind of my mindset also but since I'm a noob I wasn't sure lol