Is this a good Psu?

Pkai92

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Hey guys, i just want to make sure if this Psu is good : thermaltake smart se 730W. I already bought it and to be honest i didn't make any research. My specs are :

Intel core i7 6700
Msi gtx 1070
Asrock z170 extreme 4 motherboard
32Gb ram(16x2) (hyper x fury )
1Tb seagate hdd
240gb transcend ssd
Windows 10 64-bit
Benq XL2430T monitor

Thank you for your opinions.
 
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Found the 730P ... which is the Smart not SE series.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermaltake/SP-730P/2.html

The Thermaltake SMART 730W surely is not a great performer and this is clearly shown in our Performance Rating graph where it occupied the last spot.

Only thing I can find out about is it is CWT built it, 3 year warranty and it has applied for 80 Plus Gold certification

Here's a perfect reason why I find Tier Lists useless.... broad assumptions are made between review of a small number of reviews on models with similar names often trashing or worshiping a model number because of a similar sounding series or model which used a completely different design and componentry. You can't even make a judgment of they...
Found the 730P ... which is the Smart not SE series.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermaltake/SP-730P/2.html

The Thermaltake SMART 730W surely is not a great performer and this is clearly shown in our Performance Rating graph where it occupied the last spot.

Only thing I can find out about is it is CWT built it, 3 year warranty and it has applied for 80 Plus Gold certification

Here's a perfect reason why I find Tier Lists useless.... broad assumptions are made between review of a small number of reviews on models with similar names often trashing or worshiping a model number because of a similar sounding series or model which used a completely different design and componentry. You can't even make a judgment of they are in same series as one OEM may make model sized 450-750 for example and another better / worse OEM might do 850-1050.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2716252/thermarltake-smart-730w.html

OP asks about 730 Smart SE and forum member responds that it is Tier 4 PSU and

No Japanese capacitors found. Only Taiwanese capacitors and may even include Chinese capacitors. Very basic safety circuits or even thin gauge wiring used. Not for gaming rigs or overclocking systems of any kind. Avoid unless your budget dictates your choice.

There is no evidence of that

If you go to the link, the Tier list contains this entry

Thermaltake Smart / Smart M Channel Well Technology (M Suffix, 550P, 650P, 750P) / HEC Compucase (430P, 530P, 630P, 730P) /

So we see that the 730P (part of the Smart Series) was made by HEC. But the OP clearly stated that he was asking abut the "Smart SE" series. If anyone bothered to check, the SE 730 watter is actually made by CWT

In short. there's no way to tell ya as I just was unable to find a detailed review from a respected site. But the 3 year warranty should give ya an idea....

 
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Pkai92

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Thanks a lot Jack. I read those articles yesterday and that is exactly what made me confused and also someone told me to replace my Psu.. But it is really confusing
to know since there are different opinions.
 
Ditto. ^
Hate tier lists because of the amount of judgement units get from new users for being tier 2 over tier 1 for example because they may not have modular cables, or not being listed there despite being of high quality and therefore tossed aside as an option.
 

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Tbh, its actually not as far from the worst as you would think. Especially given the quality of everything else in that system of his. Yea the PSU tier list 2.0 is a little out dated, but i wouldnt trust a PSU that sits in the bottom of tier 4 for such a nice system you know?
 
Again ...a PSU with a similar sounding name sits at the bottom of Tier 4. That particular PSU series is not on the list at all, is not even made by the same OEM as is listed on the list for the 730. The "Smart SE" is made by CWT which, for example, makes many of Corsair's best PSUs.
 

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Aye but the closest named one Smart M while not same name, also uses CWT and yet despite the the CWT internals manages to land at Tier 4. CWT doesn't seem to always guarantee a high quality PSU my friend. :D
 
.....No, I mean that some units are fantastic, some are average, and some are bad, but it definitely isn't going to be a fire hazard like you might expect from HEC or a third rate company.
They're a mid range manufacturer.
Even if it was say, a VP 730w, that's not a great unit.
However under low-medium load it will run perfectly fine with no issues, its only towards the high load areas where regulation becomes unstable.
A 1070 system will draw around 450w max.
Also @OP, why do you have a Z170 board and a locked i7?
 

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That is eye raising. Why not drop it down to a H170 or B150 motherboard and put the saved funds into a better quality PSU? Or drop down to a I5 6600k and again use the money saved towards a better PSU?
 


I didn't see the part where anyone suggested anything was guaranteed. And you can't seem to accept the fact that no one knows what the internals of the SE series are.

All that was stated was that review comments about PSU A ("Smart" series made by HEC) can not be deemed applicable to PSU B ("Smart SE" series made by CWT) just because they didn't notice that they were actually two different PSUs or deemedof comparable quality because the two different PSU series names sounded "close enough" and didn't put in the T & E to verify their sources. Let's review:

a) OP asked about a 730 watt Thermaltake Smart SE
b) Reference was made to another thread where same question was asked.
c) In that thread, OP was told the PSU was junk Tier 4 and, "as proof" referred to a Tier List and put tke subject model in Tier 4.
d) On that tier list the only Thermaltake 730 watter in tier 4 was made by HEC
e) In response, It was stated that the advice offered in the referenced thread was inaccurate because:

1) the question was about the "Smart SE" series; the "proof" offered and quotes associated therewith were for a different ("Smart" ... with no "SE") series.

2) The two different series were made by different OEMs under different procurement contracts in different time frames.

3) There is no way to judge how good or how bad a PSU is **when no published information is available**

4) You can not not assume that characteristics of a certain PSU can be applied to another PSU with a similar sounding name, especially when they were made in different time periods, by different OEMs and there is a total absence of any published data from reliable review sites for one of them. You simply can't compare A and B if no one has any information about "B".

Q. How good football player was Jermaine E. Lewis ?

A. Not very. Lewis went unselected in the 2003 NFL Draft. However, he was signed as an undrafted free agent by the Detroit Lions, but was released before the regular season. He was then signed to the practice squad of the San Francisco 49ers, and then the Tennessee Titans. Then in 2004, he was signed by the Houston Texans and allocated to the Amsterdam Admirals of NFL Europe. The rest of his career was spent in the Arena Football League from 2005–2010.

Accurate ... Nope ? Sounds close but not the right guy.

Jermaine E. Lewis was a popular muti-purpose player amassing 10,170 total all-purpose yards spending most of his career with the Baltimore Ravens. In nine NFL seasons he recorded 148 rushing yards, 143 receptions for 2,129 yards, 295 punt returns for 3,282 yards, and 4,611 yards on kickoff returns and scored 23 touchdowns (17 receiving, six punt returns). His 3,282 punt return yards ranked him 7th on the NFL all-time list.

When a question is put forth and there's no data available to support a recommendation one way or another, you have two choices:

a) Say that there is no information available with which to form an opinion or recommendation
b) Find something with a similar sounding name and provide false information due to not verifying the sources as accurate

I chose option a)

This is how stuff like this happens

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/oops-cops-knock-doors-raid-wrong-house-article-1.816356
http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/steven-thompson-mixup/

Like just about everyone else in the OEM PC industry, CWT exists to make money. If someone wants CWT to make a $50 PSU with bargain components, they will take the contract.... if someone wants them to make a $199 PSU with quality components, they will take the contract. Some vendors contract with CWT to make both budget and high end PSUs.

But we just don't know where the SE falls in this discussion because there are no published references. However we do know that the HEC is low budget.

Would I recommend the Thermatake Smart SE ? No I wouldn't for two reasons:

1. I am somewhat familiar with the platform upon which the smaller Smart SEs are based (CWT GPM) and it's not one I am generally enthused about.

2. I can not confirm which platform the larger wattage SE units are made

3. I have never seen a detailed review by a trusted source from a trusted site on the larger wattage models built on this platform.

That said I wouldn't trash the unit out if hand because it sounds similar to a HEC made unit. As above, there is too much unknown. With the information at hand, I'm just not in a position to say one way or another. If I could confirm that it was the GPM platform, I'd say "no pick something else".



 

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*cough, cough,*
https://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/thermaltake-smart-se-630w-power-supply-review/
Same as I said before, bad voltage controll, and now to add (I read faster last time) weak ampreage on the 12V rail, less than rated
 

Pkai92

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Thank you all for the replies ! Was really a good and informative thread. I already bought the Psu a while ago and didn't buy it recently. Regarding the z-series and non-k version cpu, i didn't order the z-series motherboard coz as i said before i wasn't digging deeply into the pc details and also it doesn't really matter to me since i didn't pay cash for the pc.. It was an installment payment and if i had known that i should have gotten a better Psu i would have done so. I don't think i should Rma the psu since i asked for that exact Psu coz my friend told me so but i guess if it is THAT bad, i can afford a new Psu. What do u think guys ?