worth to upgrade to 7th gen

shamsul_arefin · Dec 6, 2016

i am using a 5 year old 2nd gen pc,
planning to buy a new pc in january or february probably.
i saw that 7th gen is coming to market.
i intended to buy a 6700k.
how faster is 7700k, is it worth to wait 2-3 more months to buy 7700k + z270
or i should buy 6700k + z170.
when it is anticipated to arrive market ?

MrN1ce9uy · Dec 6, 2016

7th gen Kabylake uses the same14nm process that the 6th gen Skylake uses. Not a lot of difference between them.

shamsul_arefin · Dec 6, 2016

MrN1ce9uy :

they are disseminating as 14nm+ ,is it just business policy ?
and i saw that 7700k will be 4.2 ghz turbo boost upto 4.4 ghz

bboiprfsr · Dec 6, 2016

Take a read. http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-7th-gen-kaby-lake-specifications

Not much is known about the Desktop chips, since all is up for speculation.
Improvements have been made towards the manufacturing process. The 7th gen cpu's could also yield better Turbo Boost speeds as far as "talk" goes toward laptop CPUs.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3111186/hardware/10-key-things-to-know-about-intels-kaby-lake-cpus.html
According to PC World (6th point), there seems to be improvement to double digit office productivity.

My conclusion? Intel is basically extending the lifespan of its 14nm manufacturing process, but offering slight tweaks/improvements to its line up. Until AMD Zen is released, Intel doesn't have much incentive and competition to make major changes. Look at it as a simple refresh, similar to how a 2014 Toyota Camry is almost identical to a 2015 Toyota Camry. The gradual shifts in shrinking manufacturing techniques on chips are really expensive and time-consuming, so I wouldn't lose any sleep on deciding whether a 7700k is a dealbreaker versus getting a 6700k CPU now. There will always be another generation CPU down the pipeline. In this case, both are 14nm.

Now if it was a drop between a 32nm CPU vs a 10nm CPU, that wouldn't even be any debate...

dish_moose · Dec 6, 2016

From what I have read, the 7700K will be a substantially better OCer - it would be nice to have 5.0GHz clock. If you can hold off 'til early 2017, new chipset and 7700k would be my choice.
-Bruce

shamsul_arefin · Dec 6, 2016

bboiprfsr :

Take a read. http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-7th-gen-kaby-lake-specifications

Not much is known about the Desktop chips, since all is up for speculation.
Improvements have been made towards the manufacturing process. The 7th gen cpu's could also yield better Turbo Boost speeds as far as "talk" goes toward laptop CPUs.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3111186/hardware/10-key-things-to-know-about-intels-kaby-lake-cpus.html
According to PC World (6th point), there seems to be improvement to double digit office productivity.

My conclusion? Intel is basically extending the lifespan of its 14nm manufacturing process, but offering slight tweaks/improvements to its line up. Until AMD Zen is released, Intel doesn't have much incentive and competition to make major changes. Look at it as a simple refresh, similar to how a 2014 Toyota Camry is almost identical to a 2015 Toyota Camry. The gradual shifts in shrinking manufacturing techniques on chips are really expensive and time-consuming, so I wouldn't lose any sleep on deciding whether a 7700k is a dealbreaker versus getting a 6700k CPU now. There will always be another generation CPU down the pipeline. In this case, both are 14nm.

Now if it was a drop between a 32nm CPU vs a 10nm CPU, that wouldn't even be any debate...

i have seen this performance sheet
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
this concludes 17% increase.
this http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/99820-intel-core-i7-7700k-14nm-kaby-lake/?page=3
also yield 5-6% performance increase

bboiprfsr · Dec 6, 2016

Sure, wait until January to buy it. That's less than 4 weeks. Enjoy.

p.s. I just read the review. Nice

shamsul_arefin · Dec 6, 2016

dish_moose :

currently 6700k is costing 360$ and gigabyte z170 gaming 3 costs 192$ in my country, its already touching the limit,
should the 7700k and z270 will cost much more initially ?what is your thoughts about this , considering the previous inaugarations of cpus by intel ?

shamsul_arefin · Dec 6, 2016

bboiprfsr :

ok, but can you tell me accoriding to the prevoious launches by intel
1.did the prices soar too much at the launch time (comparing to last gen)?
2.when can it be unveiled ?any approximation ?
3.can the initial release of cpu's contain some defects/problems/unstability ?

DelroyMonjo · Dec 6, 2016

Interesting article on Intel CPU upgrades/generation progression: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k

dish_moose · Dec 6, 2016

Quote: ok, but can you tell me accoriding to the prevoious launches by intel
1.did the prices soar too much at the launch time (comparing to last gen)?
2.when can it be unveiled ?any approximation ?
3.can the initial release of cpu's contain some defects/problems/unstabil1:ity ?"
1. Depending on how long you can wait supply/demand for new releases can keep price up. If Zen gets released in early 2017, this will hopefully force prices lower.
2. Early 2017 (Jan) is the rumoured date.
3. The 7700k is not a new cpu architecture - more of a refinement - less likely to have bugs.
-Bruce

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