Impossible to stop under clocking Zotac 970? Help!

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Hi, i've been trying to overclock my ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 4GB AMP! Extreme Core Edition (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500372) using MSI afterburner and nvidiaInspector but i cant stop it from automatically clocking itself (from 135MHz idle, to 1228MHz normal, and to 1443MHz overclock) when it decides to do so. increasing the core clock does not stop it from underclocking itself when it decides to (for instance it under clocks while playing minecraft and i get 20-50 fps on low settings) but when it clocks normall on games like world of tanks on max graphics i get 70-100fps and i even tried to force it to run at a specific clock speed on nvidiaInspector with these settings inside of a .bat file "nvidiaInspector.exe -setBaseClockOffset:0,0,118 -setMemoryClockOffset:0,0,444 -setpowertarget:0,100 -setVoltageOffset:0,0,187500 -setGPUClock:0,2,1228 -setMemoryClock:0,2,3600 -forcepstate:0,2" when i try to run the bat file nvidiaInspector just crashes. heres my computer information http://imgur.com/a/im5ie, . am i doing something wrong? do i have to change a BIOS setting or something? please help!
 
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furmark ? that gave me nothing but issues and never worked right I stopped using it quick it crashed a lot and can put the card in low power fail safe mode
''The reason you are having these problems is because Nvidia placed a "failsafe", where if your drivers fail and successfully recover they will clock down to 540mhz, 140mhz, 400mhz, etc.''

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/779295/geforce-900-series/gtx-970-downclocking-to-540mhz/2/

thing is a stress test is going to push it until it fails /downclocks . what ever why its called a stress test your card must be hitting a limit and when it does it downclocks like if it hits a power limitation it downclocks cause there not enough power stable to the card to...
'' but i cant stop it from automatically clocking itself (from 135MHz idle, to 1228MHz normal, and to 1443MHz overclock) when it decides to do so.''

that's what NVidia gpu boost 2.0 does ??

proformance and overclocking of any card comes down to a lot of luck of the draw and zotac pushes there amp ex, cards pretty high out of the box and may not have much to no overclocking head room anyway 1443 out of the box boost is pretty nice

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6760/nvidias-geforce-gtx-titan-part-1/5

you see how temps come in to play and why cooling of Maxwell was key over voltages [reason I went with a hybrid = no thermal throttling 45c max ]

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1742-nvidia-boost-clock-how-it-works
 

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My question is how can i get my card to always run at 1443MHz, how can i get it to stop under clocking itself when i play specific games? i was unable to use nvidiaInspector to force a clock state.
 
I guess nothing short of a crazy bios mod ? but I'm sure doing something like that as you want will just damage the card if something needs to back off before damage occurs ? just locking it down maxed out it will just bop until she pops

that's why them parameters and fail safes are built in

thing is it should hold the max clock but if it hit a thermal limit it will down clock or if it hits a voltage / power limit it will down clock

guys have reported the card will down clock at as low as 60c ??

http://forums.evga.com/980-Ti-Downclocking-Above-60C-m2355251.aspx

http://www.overclock.net/t/1528783/msi-gtx-970-gaming-voltage-throttling-at-65-deg

to go back to my hybrid I never see any thermal throttling but voltage it can and will and depending on the card is how much of a ceiling

so say if your card is stock and say can do 1443 at 1.2 v when gpu boost get with in about 96% of that it will down clock just a tad maybe to like 1425 but you could slide the power target up to 110% now you gave that a buffer it will still downclock but not as quick and nay not until 102% voltage



see all that orange ? that's when things are hitting the limits in the cards bios

[don't know what bios your card has ??]

Board power limit
Target: 325.0 W
Limit: 345.0 W
Adj. Range: -69%, +6%
Thermal limits
Rated: 79.5C
Max: 91.0C

then it shows

Boost clocks
P0 Boost: 1354.50 MHz
P0 Base: 1202.50 MHz


so stock its 1354 MHz as the min zotac guarantees your card will do and yours stock out of the box is boosting to 1443mhz ??

that's pretty sweet even if it does down clock some due to power or thermal limit s being hit so now I got to ask how bad is it down clocking

duaaaa. just noticed yours is a core addition but still

Boost clocks
P0 Boost: 1380.00 MHz
P0 Base: 1228.00 MHz

my card 1454.7 MHz is the best all day everything I got at 1.23v I can get more but it starts like yours and hit a voltage limitation to hold a higher clock and will just down clock every time it does

http://imgur.com/kpno2wn


running valley bench and gpu-z render test at the same time after 3 loops [ notice no orange like I showed above ] solid clock and with my temps at 40c no thermal throttling

http://imgur.com/bsLt1Ci
 

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i dont think it should be down clocking do to thermal load though, my card never reaches above 51C, even when i run it in EVGA OC scanner and max it out at 1443MHz. Not only that though, my GPU actually under clocks itself on most of the OC scanner tests. http://imgur.com/a/d3EEo
 
furmark ? that gave me nothing but issues and never worked right I stopped using it quick it crashed a lot and can put the card in low power fail safe mode
''The reason you are having these problems is because Nvidia placed a "failsafe", where if your drivers fail and successfully recover they will clock down to 540mhz, 140mhz, 400mhz, etc.''

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/779295/geforce-900-series/gtx-970-downclocking-to-540mhz/2/

thing is a stress test is going to push it until it fails /downclocks . what ever why its called a stress test your card must be hitting a limit and when it does it downclocks like if it hits a power limitation it downclocks cause there not enough power stable to the card to hold the higher / boost clocks

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/3lyyjp/why_does_my_970_downclock_in_game_under_stress/#bottom-comments

thermal down clocks to prevent burning up the card this is all set in the cards bios and controlled by NVidia GPU boost

its normal but like I said luck of the draw on how well your card handles all this some may do great and excel some may not do much more then the manufactures min specs

just how it is like my card I can go higher with it but thas when I see all this as well on the voltage end and I'm pretty sure that's what your seeing if not thermal

higher clocks mean more power the cards regulator can only do so much gpu boost allows a % of that so at 1445 clock the card needs 1.2v but when the the gpu boost gets to 96% of that voltage it adjusts

afterburner has a OSD that shows this look at my screen shot and see at top ''power 96% '' ? that's with the power limit % slider all the way up [110%] to help buffer that

run the same test as you did with one at stock [100%] the re run it with the slider at max i'll bet even if you still see downclocking it will not d it as fast

cause setting the power limit % all the way up gives the little bit of head room


try this stress test

http://imgur.com/Ak24Pbi

thing is there only so much any card can do some better then others do guy with my card oc better then mine can ? YES a lot better do some do not as good ? YES a lot worse then mine . all you can do is shoot for the best stable 24/7 balance

I'm sure I could go do a bios mod and get a lot better out of mine but I don't see where it that big a deal I'm not a top end oc card but then I sure aint at the bottom or got a card that just don't oc well if any at all


maybe something from this can help ? [ page 2 a guy says ''yeah i know i have the zotac amp extreme. its not possible with this card ']

http://www.overclock.net/t/1522651/disable-boost-and-bake-in-max-game-stable-clocks-for-maxwell
 
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thanks, that link at the end you gave me gave me the tools to disable my boost clock, that seemed to do tha trick.