New, bigger SSD for OS, tried to clone and it thinks it's half the size it is.

sodap0p · Dec 8, 2016

I bought a Crucial MX300 525 GB to replace an almost full Samsung 250 GB SSD, I used the Acronis software that came with it to clone the drive and it seemed to go well, however on rebooting, I noticed the drive was only showing a capacity of 250 GB in Windows Explorer, although was correctly showing as 525 GB in Disk Management. I've tried extending volumes and I fear I've made a mess.

I now seem to have a variety of partitions. I tried to reinstall Windows 10 from scratch on it but I still see the wrong capacity, and a bunch of partitions I can't extend or delete. I have tried to 'wipe' the SSD and start again from scratch, but I get messages saying I can't do this as it contains the OS.

Here is a screenshot of my Disk Management window:

I'm not sure what those 2 blank volumes are at the top of the list, but the C Drive is the new SSD.

I'd be hugely grateful if someone can explain where I have gone wrong, and how to correct my mistakes.

RealBeast · Dec 8, 2016

Do a clean install and select custom installation. As the first step delete all existing partitions. Then install to the single remaining unpartitioned space.

In the future when you clone to a larger drive insure that you select the option to resize drive to fill unallocated space

ArtPog · Dec 8, 2016

While you can fresh-install the OS onto your new SSD as RealBeast suggests, it appears that your primary objective is to clone the contents (including the Win 10 OS which I assume was the OS installed on Samsung SSD) of that SSD to the new Crucial 525 GB SSD. Do I have this right?

If so...

1. Is the Samsung still available? And if so, does it boot & function without any problems and would you be satisfied to clone the contents of the Samsung to the Crucial so that the latter will become your new boot drive?

2. If that is the case could you not repeat the disk-cloning operation? (I'm assuming your Samsung was NOT a Dynamic disk - rather a Basic disk which should be what you want for the Crucial. Why you designated that latter disk as "Dynamic" is a puzzle.)

I haven't used the Acronis program in quite a while so I'm not very familiar with its current user interface/operations. I was never particularly impressed with the program. But I'm aware many users are. Just ensure you're properly utilizing the program.

jdlech · Dec 8, 2016

I ran into the same problem earlier this year. When you clone a drive, it clones the partition and formatting information as well. Then you need a partition manager to expand the partition. If I remember correctly, all Windows drive manager could manage was to move the partition around on the drive, but couldn't expand it. I ended up using EasUS Partition Master and a couple of reboots to finish the job.
Edit: Oh, and all those extra partitions on your boot drive are created by your Bios (UEFI mode, I think), and MS windows. If I remember correctly, it's for secure booting and Windows Reserved Partitions, MS and Secure Boot can sure chop a hard drive up.

RealBeast · Dec 8, 2016

jdlech :

No, good cloning software has an option to expand the cloned drive into all the space on the new drive and leave none of the new drive unallocated. I've cloned hundreds of drives and never had an issue with this.

jdlech · Dec 8, 2016

Key word there, RealBeast. "**good** cloning software.

Elysian890 · Dec 8, 2016

So you can't extend C to use the unallocated space I guess. Clonezilla is the only one that worked for me every time, with different drives and sizes.
Try using Partition Wizard to expand the current partition

sodap0p · Dec 11, 2016

ArtPog :

Hi, yes, that is what I'm trying to do. I'm not sure why I made the new SSD dynamic either, I think a friend told me I should=/

Do I need to do anything to the Crucial disk to wipe it to be able to successfully clone?

What cloning software would you recommend?

ArtPog · Dec 11, 2016

The following assumes that your former boot drive - the 250 GB Samsung SSD - is still available and contains a viable OS and functions without any problems. If that is NOT the case, read no further...

A. After shutting down your system, uninstall the 525 GB Crucial SSD from the system and install the Samsung SSD. Boot to the Samsung and ensure it boots & functions without any problems. Again, if there is a problem, read no further, capiche?

B. Assuming all is well, shut down the system and install your Crucial SSD. (You might want to temporarily disconnect the 2 TB secondary HDD as a precautionary move before the next step.)

C. With the Crucial new serving as a secondary drive, delete the volumes or format the drive so that you will have a disk empty of data. (I'm assuming, of course, there's no data on that disk that your want). It's unnecessary to initialize or partition/format the drive, as long as you now have a disk empty of data ("unallocated" disk-space). Capiche?

D. Clone the contents of the Samsung to the Crucial. Since you ran into trouble with Acronis I'm going to recommend another disk-cloning program for the data migration operation with instructions on how to use it, as follows...

1. Download/install the Casper Trial Edition 10 (v10.0.6044) disk-cloning program from: https://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/trial/
(This is a commercial program that ordinarily costs $49.99 but you can use the trial edition now)

2. Before undertaking the disk-cloning operation close all open programs. (Generally you need not disable your anti-virus program). Ensure your destination drive - the proposed recipient of the clone - is properly connected in the system. It can either be installed internally in the system (presumably a desktop PC), or externally as a USB device.

3. Click "Add drive" and a window open listing the destination drive. Ensure that's the correct drive you want be the recipient of the clone (just in case other multiple drives are connected). Click on that disk's listing and then "Yes" on the confirmation message that follows.

4. Click on "Back up now" (after again assuring that it's the right drive you desire to receive the cloned contents of the source disk).

5. Casper will begin the disk-cloning operation running in the background. If you want to view the progress of the disk-cloning operation click on the Casper icon visible on the Taskbar or in the Notification area of the Taskbar.

6. Following the successful disk-cloning operation disconnect (when practicable) the source drive from the system and boot solely to the connected Crucial destination drive. As a general proposition it's a good idea (whenever practical) for the newly-cloned drive to be connected to the motherboard's first SATA data connector, usually designated SATA 0 or SATA 1.
Also, check the system's BIOS/UEFI to ensure the newly-cloned drive is now first in boot priority order.

7. If your destination disk was connected as a USB external drive for the disk-cloning operation, boot to it to determine whether it's a bootable drive while connected as a USB external device. Ensure you select the drive from the boot menu during bootup. If it's unbootable while connected as a USB external drive (since many systems will balk at booting from a USB device), most likely it will be bootable when connected internally in the system.

8. Casper will utilize the entire disk-space of the destination drive to contain the data contents from the source drive.

9. If you have uninstalled or disconnected the 2 TB HDD you can reinstall it now. I don't know what your plans are for the Samsung SSD.

Give it a try and let us know the results, OK?

sodap0p · Dec 11, 2016

ArtPog :

The following assumes that your former boot drive - the 250 GB Samsung SSD - is still available and contains a viable OS and functions without any problems. If that is NOT the case, read no further...

A. After shutting down your system, uninstall the 525 GB Crucial SSD from the system and install the Samsung SSD. Boot to the Samsung and ensure it boots & functions without any problems. Again, if there is a problem, read no further, capiche?

B. Assuming all is well, shut down the system and install your Crucial SSD. (You might want to temporarily disconnect the 2 TB secondary HDD as a precautionary move before the next step.)

C. With the Crucial new serving as a secondary drive, delete the volumes or format the drive so that you will have a disk empty of data. (I'm assuming, of course, there's no data on that disk that your want). It's unnecessary to initialize or partition/format the drive, as long as you now have a disk empty of data ("unallocated" disk-space). Capiche?

D. Clone the contents of the Samsung to the Crucial. Since you ran into trouble with Acronis I'm going to recommend another disk-cloning program for the data migration operation with instructions on how to use it, as follows...

1. Download/install the Casper Trial Edition 10 (v10.0.6044) disk-cloning program from: https://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/trial/
(This is a commercial program that ordinarily costs $49.99 but you can use the trial edition now)

2. Before undertaking the disk-cloning operation close all open programs. (Generally you need not disable your anti-virus program). Ensure your destination drive - the proposed recipient of the clone - is properly connected in the system. It can either be installed internally in the system (presumably a desktop PC), or externally as a USB device.

3. Click "Add drive" and a window open listing the destination drive. Ensure that's the correct drive you want be the recipient of the clone (just in case other multiple drives are connected). Click on that disk's listing and then "Yes" on the confirmation message that follows.

4. Click on "Back up now" (after again assuring that it's the right drive you desire to receive the cloned contents of the source disk).

5. Casper will begin the disk-cloning operation running in the background. If you want to view the progress of the disk-cloning operation click on the Casper icon visible on the Taskbar or in the Notification area of the Taskbar.

6. Following the successful disk-cloning operation disconnect (when practicable) the source drive from the system and boot solely to the connected Crucial destination drive. As a general proposition it's a good idea (whenever practical) for the newly-cloned drive to be connected to the motherboard's first SATA data connector, usually designated SATA 0 or SATA 1.
Also, check the system's BIOS/UEFI to ensure the newly-cloned drive is now first in boot priority order.

7. If your destination disk was connected as a USB external drive for the disk-cloning operation, boot to it to determine whether it's a bootable drive while connected as a USB external device. Ensure you select the drive from the boot menu during bootup. If it's unbootable while connected as a USB external drive (since many systems will balk at booting from a USB device), most likely it will be bootable when connected internally in the system.

8. Casper will utilize the entire disk-space of the destination drive to contain the data contents from the source drive.

9. If you have uninstalled or disconnected the 2 TB HDD you can reinstall it now. I don't know what your plans are for the Samsung SSD.

Give it a try and let us know the results, OK?

I got as far as D5 (Thank you for your incredibly user friendly directions by the way) and the cloning starts, and then this error message pops up:

Casper was unable to complete the copy
A problem was encountered with the operation of Disk 2 [Crucial_ CT525MX3000SSD1]. The device appears to be write protected (19).

Any suggestions?

ArtPog · Dec 11, 2016

It's a very unusual error for a HDD, but it does happen.
I assume you followed step C. in my instructions.

The first thing to check is the Crucial's health to determine whether you're dealing with a defective disk.

Probably not, but it's always wise to check. Download the Crucial diagnostic tool from...
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/support-storage-executive

Assuming no problem with the disk...

(I'm going to assume you're familiar with the Diskpart utility. If you're not, do a Google search and learn about this program. It's something every PC user should know about.)

Here's the basic instructions...
1. Open an Administrative Command prompt.

2. Type diskpart and press Enter.

(no quotes when entering commands)
3. "list disk"

4. "select disk 0" (or disk 1 or disk 2, whichever is the desired disk; ensure you've chosen the Crucial)

5. "clean all"
(This command will erase all partitions of the disk. In some cases it will take some time to complete the cleaning process. If the cleaning operation is successful a message will appear that "DiskPart succeeded in cleaning the disk."

6. exit, exit

All the disk space on the drive now will be "Unallocated". )

Try the Casper program again.

sodap0p · Dec 11, 2016

ArtPog :

Thank you very much ArtPog, Diskpart solved the read only problem.

I successfully cloned the Samsung to the Crucial and it's showing the right size now! I had a couple of issues with windows after the clone but I just reinstalled windows keeping my files and programmes and it's all good now.

Thank you again so much for your assistance, I really appreciate you taking the time to explain things clearly.

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