FPS problems in Forza Horizon 3

Bamse · Dec 9, 2016

Heyho! Recently bought myself a 8320 and an ASUS Strix 1060 6GB, was looking forward to playing all these new games on high settings with decent FPS. Installed the parts, booted up, did a little overclocking on the CPU (sitting stable at 4.3Ghz) and started Forza, maxed everything and got disappointed. Sat at around 30-40 fps and decided to lower the settings to high, restarted the game and realized the fps was exactly the same. At that moment I was like "wtf is going on?". So I lowered the settings even more, this time to medium and exactly the same fps as before, started to get really annoyed and came here for help

Specs:
Mobo: Asus M5A78L (By now I know this doesn't have the power for an 8320, therefore I only use 4 cores instead)
CPU: FX-8320 @4.3Ghz
GPU: Asus Strix 1060 6GB OC
RAM: 16GB Corsair 1333Mhz
Storage:
1x 500GB HDD
1x 1TB HDD
1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB

Please help me, this is getting really frustrating

James Mason · Dec 9, 2016

It may be your CPU holding you back, especially if you had to cripple it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/53tnu3/forza_horizon_3_pc_performance_spreadsheet/

Bamse · Dec 9, 2016

James Mason :

What should I do then?

Corwin65 · Dec 9, 2016

It's your CPU. You bought old tech on a dead platform. That CPU can usually be outperformed by a Skylake i3.

You did well by lowering your settings and proved it's not the GPU.

sizzling · Dec 9, 2016

Not a strong CPU, the cores are weak. Are any of the cores hitting 100%? You may be better off not overclocking and activating the other cores, note sure how well that game uses multiple threads. Its fairly new so my do better with more cores.

neblogai · Dec 9, 2016

James Mason :

If i7 870 at 2,93 can do 50-60 fps with RX480, as in one of the posts- sure 4 cores of 8320 at 4.3GHz are more powerful and should perform better.
Anyway, I'd try even lower CPU clock, say 3GHz, to see if performance drops. Also, make sure image quality 'dynamic' setting in the game is off, as it drops image quality to keep game at 30-40fps.

Bamse · Dec 9, 2016

neblogai :

James Mason :

If i7 870 at 2,93 can do 50-60 fps with RX480, as in one of the posts- sure 4 cores of 8320 at 4.3GHz are more powerful and should perform better.
Anyway, I'd try even lower CPU clock, say 3GHz, to see if performance drops. Also, make sure image quality 'dynamic' setting in the game is off, as it drops image quality to keep game at 30-40fps.

Dynamic setting is off, I shall try your tip there, coming back with a reply soon

sizzling · Dec 9, 2016

neblogai :

You can't compare GHz like that. Modern Intel's can do about twice the work per clock cycle of the FX8xxx, ok that's an older Intel but Id still expect its cores although lower clocked to be significantly more powerful.

Corwin65 · Dec 9, 2016

sizzling :

neblogai :

You can't compare GHz like that. Modern Intel's can do about twice the work per clock cycle of the FX8xxx, ok that's an older Intel but Id still expect its cores although lower clocked to be significantly more powerful.

Exactly.

This is whty an i3 usually bests the AMD offerings.

Bamse · Dec 9, 2016

Clocked it to 3Ghz, unlocked all the cores and running the game on Ultra, 29-45FPS. What is this man

James Mason · Dec 9, 2016

neblogai :

Not necessarily, the fx 8320 is roughly equal to i7 870 in terms of raw power at 4 cores.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-870-vs-AMD-FX-8320/m961vs1983
It could be the motherboard not being powerful enough for the CPU, regardless of cores available.

Jeff Kaos · Dec 9, 2016

This may be a dumb question but did you turn off the "30 FPS max" (or whatever it's called) in the games settings? I just bought Forza Horizons 3 and GTA V to push my new gaming rig and I know one of those games has a setting that defaults the FPS to 30. And I'm pretty sure it's Forza.

Bamse · Dec 9, 2016

Jeff Kaos :

It's set on Unlocked so that's not the problem

madmatt30 · Dec 9, 2016

Then problem is your motherboard throttling that CPU no matter whether you have 4 cores disabled or not.

I have no idea what you were thinking buying an 8 core knowing full well the board doesn't support it properly if at all.

Buy a decent motherboard.

madmatt30 · Dec 9, 2016

& before you argue I'm running fh3 at high on a fx 6300@4.2ghz with a gtx 970 , high settings & locked absolitely rock solid at 50fps.

Bamse · Dec 9, 2016

madmatt30 :

It's not throttling though? 100% on all cores and they run at 3Ghz constantly. And I didn't know about the mobo+cpu thing before I bought it.

madmatt30 · Dec 9, 2016

Is this a new build completely ??
Or have you upgraded other stuff the same time as the CPU ??
Nvidia card previously etc ??

Bamse · Dec 9, 2016

madmatt30 :

Bought both the GPU and CPU last week

sizzling · Dec 11, 2016

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Bamse : "FPS Problems in several games"

Bamse :

Is your cpu hope 4ghz or is it dropping? That motherboard is not a good choice for that cpu, the VRM's often overheat and throttle the cpu. You really can't overclock on that motherboard.

Also what are your core usages? In games like Cs Go that can't use multiple cpu cores/threads you will see no gain over the 6300 as the extra cores go unused.

Bamse · Dec 11, 2016

sizzling :

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Bamse : "FPS Problems in several games"

Bamse :

Is your cpu hope 4ghz or is it dropping? That motherboard is not a good choice for that cpu, the VRM's often overheat and throttle the cpu. You really can't overclock on that motherboard.

Also what are your core usages? In games like Cs Go that can't use multiple cpu cores/threads you will see no gain over the 6300 as the extra cores go unused.

Bought the Enzotech MOS-C10's and that fixed the v-drooping. The cpu runs at 4Ghz when in game at all times. CPU usage in GTA hovers around 40-50% while GPU usage is around 30-35%.

madmatt30 · Dec 11, 2016

What is the actual exact board model ??
If its the m/usb3 with the 4+1 power phase (the same one as I use)

Then you want to be locking off at 6 cores between 3.5-3.8ghz.

That's where you're going to get your overall best performance ratio .

How are you locking the cores off at the moment ??
In bios ??

Bamse · Dec 11, 2016

madmatt30 :

It's the M5A78L with the 3+1 power phase.

Bamse · Dec 11, 2016

If I bought the Gigabyte GA-970-Gaming motherboard would that solve my problems?

Noob_sam · Mar 24, 2017

Fx 8320 is more than capable to play forza horizon 3... I have the same Cpu paired with Rx480 and even on ultra the cpu remains at 80%. the game clearly lacks optimization from the devs end.

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