The best CPU cooler to use with 128 GB Corsair Platinum Dominator Ram including ram fans on X99-E WS motherboard

SCANNERMAN777 · Dec 11, 2016

I'm in a pickle. I purchased a Noctua NH-D51S air cooler and although it kept my CPU at a nice 32 degrees Celsius my board temp rose to 45 degrees and it eventually died. I had to RMA the board and I don't know if the lack of "optional" RAM fans (which wouldn't fit) that caused it to malfunction or if it was simply a bad board but I don't want to repeat this event. Bear in mind all slots are full on this board (16 Gb per stick - 8 sticks). Frankly I hate water cooling and I don't view it as very practical. Is there an alternative?

Karadjgne · Dec 11, 2016

Board temp is rarely respondent to ram temp. Most normally its an address of a component closer to the VRM's, package, Northbridge etc. The issue with the D15 is its size. Aircoolers have an advantage over liquid cooling due to 'bleed' air coming from the sides of he heatsink supplying localized airflow around the cpu, which generally results in lower mobo temps. Because of the size of the D15, I'd Hazard a guess that it's actually overshadowing the mobo temp component, so not allowing for bleed air to actually work in this favor. Combined with airflow restrictions presented by packed in ram, I doubt any normal double tower heatsink would be viable. My suggestion would be the Noctua NH-C14, which is almost as capable as the D15, yet provides a down-draft style airflow the same as a stock cooler, meaning the full capability of its fans is dumped directly on the cpu, voltage regulatory circuitry and surrounding heatsinks and components.

SCANNERMAN777 · Dec 11, 2016

That is all good and wonderful about the air flow and all but my concern is that I'll have clearance for my ram fans. It was probably an oversight on my part to neglect to state that all this happened on a test bench. No peripherals other than a keyboard and a mouse were added. There was plenty of room for airflow. At first the build kept switching on and off but eventually it stayed on. I checked all the connecting components and ram but found nothing out of place. Eventually the board simply ceased to function. I had to RMA the board. Now I'm looking for a better cooler for the replacement board before I build.

Karadjgne · Dec 11, 2016

Yes. It was a serious oversight on your part that you neglected to mention that all this was done on a test bench, where airflow is a problem. Just because it was not done in a case, is no indication. You still had no airflow over the VRM's etc. Normal thermo dynamics, bleed air etc are still required in normal operation. Simply put, there is no better air cooler than a D15. Every other twin tower is going to do the exact same job, to a lesser degree. Considering that you are not the first to use that board, with full ram slots and a large twin tower style air cooler, and others have successfully run their own pc's without issues due to heat on the mobo, and you've already RMA a problematic mobo, it's looking more like you had a defective mobo to start with. Asus is known for having security software built into their boards to shut down the pc in event of catastrophic failures, ie motherboard overheating. It's probable that all this was simply a default failsafe engaging due to a faulty component at the temp address. I'd suggest you test the replacement board before making a decision to replace the best air cooler on the market with something inferior, but in the advent the test reveals the same thermal flaws, I'd still recommend the C14 which will have 0 ram issues due to design.

SCANNERMAN777 · Dec 11, 2016

Evidently you're not "getting it" so-to-speak or you're ignoring my main concern. I rather doubt the C14 will provide better clearance for my RAM — wait for it — *drum roll* — plus my Corsair Dominator Airflow ram fans >>> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181087 but in the event that there is a better AIR COOLER ("better" meaning that it provides clearance for both my ram and my ram fans, therefore better for my purposes) I thought I would look for a reasonable solution. I've never seen a brand new motherboard fail on a test bench simply because secondary case fans were not plugged into it. This is a first for me and I suspect it may be due to the draw 128 Gb of "high performance" RAM puts on the motherboard. The chip was not overclocked and the ram was running stock out of the box at 2133 Mhz. Maybe the board was just a dud. Still, I don't want to repeat the problem.

Karadjgne · Dec 11, 2016

No, I get it just fine. You, on the other hand don't. Any x99 board can handle 128Gb of ram, it's what it's designed for. The cpu has no issues at all. Neither does the cooler. In over 30 years of being around the guts of pc's, I've yet to ever see ram either causing mobo failure due to excessive heat or mobo failure due to reported temps of 45°C. IF there was a separate issue you hadn't yet identified before board failure, that won't be due to running all the slots at full capacity. You are saying you need a better cooler simply because you can't use the Dominator ram fans, and lack of using those fans caused board failure. That's bs. The mobo temp of 45°C is in no way related to the ram or lack of fans. The fans are usually a gimmick. Totally unnecessary except in 1 instance, extreme OC of the ram. For the most part, ram doesn't even require any sort of heatsinking, especially at stock settings. It's all a sales gimmick for higher end ram, all about the looks with very little to no real functionality. Most ppl with high end pc's with windows in cases and high visibility guts don't want to see the IC chips on expensive ram, therefore it's covered up in a fancy heatsink.

If you truly insist that it's an absolute necessity for you to use the Dominator fans, the best solution would be an AIO. Guaranteed 0 ram interference or any of its included airspace.

Your prior problem was a faulty board, not anything to do with any additional hardware, or lack thereof, since anything you added to the mobo was well within design specs.

SCANNERMAN777 · Dec 11, 2016

Thank you for your considerate reply. You've been at it ten years longer than I have so I defer to your expertise. ASUS has proven to be very reliable for me in the past and I was quite surprised to witness this problem. Mobo temps for me rarely run over 30 Celsius on the test bench so I was reaching for an explanation. The Noctua definitely provided adequate cooling to the CPU which, as I stated earlier, did not excel 35 Celsius. A handsome temperature notwithstanding for the new Intel hex core CPU. It has always been my view that ram fans and the sleeved ram were overkill as I tend to regard circuitry as having its own intrinsic beauty. I purchased the RAM for performance reasons and because the price was right. 128Gb kits of matched ram are not as common as others and the low profile Kingston Savage ram was not found on the ASUS QVL and not sold in 128Gb kits. This is the first time I have ever purchased RAM from Corsair.

I have decided to swap out my wife's cooler and give her my Noctua cooler. Her old cooler (a modified monstrosity of my own design) can go on my 7 year old's CPU as I have recently discovered that she's getting temps of 67 Celsius and greater with a mobo temp of 29. My mod can knock that CPU temp down to under 40 on nearly any Haswell chip but it's an ugly looking mod job. She won't care because she never looks inside the case. She's all performance oriented. lol

The issue at hand however is Broadwell. My girls are using Haswell. What sort of AIO would you recommend for the X99-E WS board soon to be forthcoming? Thank you for your time and patience.

SCANNERMAN777 · Dec 11, 2016

I think I may have found the correct cooling solution for my build. I absolutely, positively detest liquid cooling and try to avoid it on all counts this one being no exception. I would settle for a ten degree loss of cooling temperature using air cooling than risk imminent disaster with liquid cooling. Most water/liquid coolers have a comparatively short life expectancy and all it takes is one leak to totally ruin your day. What do you think of this model?

https://www.amazon.ca/Noctua-Cooler-LGA2011-Platforms-NH-U12DXi4/dp/B00DWFQ42I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481489088&sr=8-1&keywords=NH-U12DX+i4

Karadjgne · Dec 11, 2016

It's about ½ the ability of the D15, but for stock clocks should be fine.

On a side note, I've had a Corsair H55 for 4 years and a nzxt Kraken X61 for 3 years and not an issue out of either. Not sure where you get 'imminent disaster' from, if anything an aio is considerably safer to use than full custom loops since user error is taken out of the equation when it comes to joints and components. Aio leaks are about as common as damage to a motherboard due to undue weight applied by large air coolers. But to each his own. Personally, I find mounting a aio pump correctly far, far easier than some aircoolers, such as the vaunted CM Hyper 212 line.

SCANNERMAN777 · Dec 12, 2016

Whenever I read posts about enthusiasts using liquid/water cooling rarely do I find posts of anyone using it for more than a year where they don't have to start fiddling with it or having to replace it altogether. I certainly have read enough horror stories. Occasionally I'll find a post like yours but to be fair the exception only proves the rule. Nope. The water cooling manufacturers need to be a whole lot more innovative and demonstrate a far more convincing track record before I buy into that watery risk. I settled on the air cooler I asked you about since I read that moderate over clocking is also possible with this cooler. Not that I'd attempt an o.c. of more than 4Ghz anyway. The chip already does 3.6 out of the box and I'm not really a hard core gamer. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608043&cm_re=NH-U12DX_i4-_-35-608-043-_-Product

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SCANNERMAN777 · Dec 12, 2016

Thank you for moving this for me. I've furnished my own answer for myself as I couldn't really find one that is satisfactory. Then again, my own answer isn't very satisfactory either

I gave the wife the NH-D51S and ordered a NH-U12DXi4. It might not give me better temps but at least I'll be able to use the ram fans now. I suspect it will also provide less stress on the board as well. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=NH-U12DXi4++pictures&view=detailv2&qpvt=NH-U12DXi4++pictures&id=4A51CF17BE183B9E57409B0891F2A43F409CA174&selectedindex=1&ccid=6kkydU3z&simid=607986865803165757&thid=OIP.Mea4932754df3376d0b68f374725fbc35o0&mode=overlay&first=1

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