High End PC Lagging

Hazelwolfie · Dec 12, 2016

I built a computer that is, for the most part, high end and is lagging in games that is should be able to handle without issues.

Here are the specs:

Cpu: Amd FX 8370 8core 4.0GHz/4.3 turbo (with wraith cooler)
Mobo: Msi 970 gaming
Ram: 8GBx2 1833mhz ddr3
Gpu:Asus Rog Strix GTX 1080 8gb 1820mhz
Hdd1: Hitachi 2Tb 7200rpm
Hdd2: Samsung 500gb 7200rpm
Psu: Roswill Quark 1200w 80+ platinum certified

First i turned on the turbo for my cpu to 4.3ghz and did not notice a difference. I have checked the Nvidia settings and turned off vsync, triple buffering, and turned maximum performance on. I have also went into the Bios and changed my dram frequency from 1333 to 1866, upped my pci-e latency timer from 32 to 128, and upped the pci frequency from 100 to 107. I've read that these settings could potentially help and increase performance. After doing this i had a noticeable increase of performance but it is still lagging.

This performance testing is in Borderlands 2 (which I presume that i should be able to run with no issues).
I am at a loss of what this could be. I appreciate any insight that the community can give me on this.

I have until January 31st to return all parts so depending on if this is necessary I will consider trading in parts as a last resort.

Thank you in advance.

logainofhades · Dec 13, 2016

That CPU is not enough to handle a GTX 1080. A GTX 1080 should be paired with an i5 or i7. The 1200w PSU was overkill as well.

Hazelwolfie · Dec 13, 2016

Do you have any specific i5 or i7 processors that i should look into? The psu was on sale for 115$ and i figured it was a good deal for a platinum certified.

CTurbo · Dec 13, 2016

Yeah the FX cpus are too old and weak to handle a GTX1080.

What would be your budget for upgrades? You could grab a 4th gen i5 or i7 like the i7 4790k and a Z97 motherboard and reuse your current RAM, or you could spend a little more and get a 6th gen i5 or i7 like the i5 6600k and a Z170 motherboard and upgrade to DDR4 RAM as well.

Hazelwolfie · Dec 13, 2016

I can send my processor and motherboard back and get about $280 and i could put that towards the upgrade i would say about $400 on top of that would be my budget

CTurbo · Dec 13, 2016

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($235.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($138.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $374.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-13 13:29 EST-0500

logainofhades · Dec 13, 2016

$400 on top of the $280? That would allow for a 4790k, motherboard, and good cooling. Cooling would depend on what case you have.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.37 @ OutletPC)
Total: $472.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-13 13:39 EST-0500

CTurbo · Dec 13, 2016

Looks like I misread. If you can spend that much, you may as well go 6th gen with DDR4. If not, go with logainofhades' suggestion

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.89 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.97 @ Jet)
Total: $603.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-13 13:43 EST-0500

Hazelwolfie · Dec 13, 2016

Im thinking about the 4690k as CTurbo suggested. It seems to have a great cost vs power ratio. Is there any reason other than the future proof from the 4680 and the 6700? I mean in terms of right now for and the next few years

logainofhades · Dec 13, 2016

6th gen gives you upgrade opportunities, that you cannot always get in a 4th gen platform, like M.2 drive capability, for faster SSD's. NVME drives should start getting less expensive, as the competition starts to heat up. Also Intel I think has one more gen of cpu's, after the upcoming 7700k comes out.

g-unit1111 · Dec 13, 2016

Hazelwolfie :

Yeah there's no reason to pay good money for old hardware which is what you are doing buying the 4690K. Always best to get the most current generation.

Hazelwolfie · Dec 13, 2016

I was not able to do as much searching earlier since i was at work, I am now looking at getting the i5 6600k. I believe this will be sufficient for my needs and it is not that pricey.

Hazelwolfie · Dec 13, 2016

Here is what I have put together;

CPU: i5 6600k 3.5ghz
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper T4
Motherboard: Msi Gaming b150 LGA 1151
Ram: Corsair Vengeance 8GBx2 ddr4 3000Mhz

I am hoping that this will be good, I have not yet ordered these so this can be changed if something is not compatible or other reasons.

CTurbo · Dec 13, 2016

If you want the i5 6600k, you need to also get a Z170 motherboard. It would match the RAM better too. I also recommend the CRYORIG H7 cpu cooler too. The Hyper T4 is not worth bothering with.

Hazelwolfie · Dec 13, 2016

I found the MSI Pro Solution z170A, there are multiple variants of thiss board ( Pro, PC Mate, SLI, SLI Pro) i am not planning on running SLI, so i feel that i am safe with the PC Mate or Pro but i do not see a difference between the two unless there is something that would be a better recommendation.

CTurbo · Dec 13, 2016

The cheaper boards are not going to overclock as well. If overclocking is important to you, I recommend the MSI Z170 Gaming M5 or the Asus Z170-A. If you are not interested in overclocking, you could save quite a bit of money by getting the i5 6500 or i5 6600 and a B150 or H170 motherboard.

Hazelwolfie · Dec 13, 2016

Alright i will invest in the Asus board. Thank you for your help I never really considered asking a forum before and everyone has been a big help. Have a great holiday everyone!

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