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Right now, it says I have an integrated graphics card in my computer. In that Imgur album I believe the 4th picture, zoomed in on a small card the graphics card. I want to get a dedicated graphics card, for gaming, and I have multiple questions.

1. Do I have to switch out my graphics card or can I put in a new one so there are two?

2. I was looking at graphics card and the Ge Force's seem better then AMD's but on the front of my computer it says I'm using AMD parts so could I could use other graphic cards that are not AMD?

3. I am mainly deciding between the r7 series 240 and the 250. The 240 says 2GB of memory and I'm not sure if this is better or worse as the 250 says 1GB.

The prices differ by only 20 dollars not including tax so money is no problem.

Edit: The imgur album should have the pictures may you need it.
 
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not saying the power supply will speed up your graphics. but rather how much power it can make determines what graphics card it can run. based on the pics, the one you have now will only run something that does not need extra power from a pcie connection. it will easily run an r7-240/50 but it's not worth buying because it is not better than what you already have. to improve performance, you want a better card and not one that matches what you already have.

the lowest i'd go and still consider it a good upgrade would be something like a gtx 750ti. they have been replaced so prices have dropped on them. it will give you that boost your looking for in fps. if you can afford more, the best you can do on your current power supply is a new...
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you have an apu . That means your cpu has onboard graphics you dont have a dedicated graphics card . the nvidia vs amd its just a brand you should the one that has the best performance and features also check your motherboard and psu for compatibility .
 
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You can't compare gpus directly since architecture is different. Not even amd vs amd is possible on different gens. Also more vram does not mean it's better. The 250 is better regardless. Here's a hierarchy chart. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html You will be limited by your psu but it looks like you are looking at lower end gpus anyways. What's the price of the gpus? You might be able to find a better card for the price.
 
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the small card you are seeing is the wifi card that let's you connect to wifi for internet. the gpu will plug into the long yellow slot which is open and ready to use.

your psu has 2 x 13 amp 12v rails for 216 watts on the 12v rail. this will limit any gpu upgrade. the best it will do would be a new 1050ti that does not need an extra power connection. but it will run any of the 2 you are thinking of. a 240 or 250, however, the apu already has comparable graphics so it would not be an actual upgrade.

it's not worth doing unless it is an actual increase in performance. so save your money until you can afford an actual gpu upgrade. what you already have is just as good as either of those cards and may actual be a touch better!!
 
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The 250 is $129.99 without tax. I do understand that I am at the lower end of graphics card and I'm looking at others. I don't want to spend too much money on these graphic cards but if it's worth it I will. Right now I have the Radeon HD 8670D. And I don't see it on the table at all, but judging by the AMD column it should be pretty high up but I lag on simple games with lowest settings like 60 fps on cs:go, sometimes dipping to 30. My friend usually gets 200-300 on his highest settings and he says his graphics card isn't even too good. I do know he has a dedicated graphics card apart of the Radeon r9 200 series.
 
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the integrated gpu would be about the same as an r7-240 or 250 so again not really worth the money as it is not actually an upgrade. something like a 750ti would be about as low as i'd go and still call it an upgrade. they run less than $100 here in the US. if you're outside the US, i'd have to look at a local store with your currency budget to get an idea what you could do that would be an actual upgrade or what to save for.
 
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a 240 or 250 is only about a 50-60w gpu so no worries there :)
 
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So you're saying that if I want to maximize the performance of my graphics card I need a new psu? I see 650 watts that are cheap. If I get this will I even need a new graphics card because the 8670D seems like it would be high on the hierarchy table k1114 linked.

Edit: Also I do live right outside of the U.S. I am currently in Canada. The pictures of the Radeon boxes are from a local Best Buy.
 
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not saying the power supply will speed up your graphics. but rather how much power it can make determines what graphics card it can run. based on the pics, the one you have now will only run something that does not need extra power from a pcie connection. it will easily run an r7-240/50 but it's not worth buying because it is not better than what you already have. to improve performance, you want a better card and not one that matches what you already have.

the lowest i'd go and still consider it a good upgrade would be something like a gtx 750ti. they have been replaced so prices have dropped on them. it will give you that boost your looking for in fps. if you can afford more, the best you can do on your current power supply is a new 1050 or 1050ti. both of which are a BIG upgrade and still need no extra power connections. they of course will cost more cause they are new generation cards.

as for where the 8670D is on the list. make sure your looking at the D at the end. a 8670 and an 8670D are VERY different in performance. it is not on the list but is actually in the same tier as the 240/250 cards!!!
 
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I'll probably stay around 750ti's. So I'm assuming they'll be compatible with my PC and will work great. Thank you very much and everyone else who have replied to this thread, I have gained a lot of knowledge on this now.

 
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The 8670d is lower than a 6570 so quite a bit lower than a 250. I expected the store to cost a lot more. Online I can find a 250 gddr5 for ~$84 cad. For $145 is a 1050 which is more than double the performance, it's about a 960 on the chart. There's no reason to look at a 750ti when it's only $5 less and a lot less performance than a 1050. There isn't any good values in between that your psu can handle. You should probably be fine with a 250 which is at least 75% better than your igpu.
 
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So are you saying I should go out and buy the r7 250?
 
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you sure an 8670d is that low? couple benchmarks i looked up showed it doing pretty well for an igp. i'm pretty sure most reviews i read said it was roughly a 240/50. which is also what you are supposed to pair it with to crossfire it. no way that would be the card to xfire with if it was 75% lower in performance.

but if a 1050 is only a few bucks more than a 750ti, then it is a much better buy for sure. missed it earlier but the zotac mini is $144 making it a HUGELY better buy over a 750ti. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/G3H48d/zotac-geforce-gtx-1050-2gb-mini-video-card-zt-p10500a-10l

that extra $10 does net a large gain over a 750ti. (it's the card that replaced it so of course it is a ton better :) )
 
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240 and 250 is a notable difference in itself. A 240 is around the 6570/8670d. The 250 is 4-5 tiers higher. I think you are mixing gens. This is the a10 6700 which goes with the 6570/6670. The a10 78xx goes with the 250.

Which card depends on the performance you want and how much you want to pay. A 250 is a good enough difference for an upgrade. A 1050 is a better value for the price/performance but also costs more. It also uses around the same power and better performing gpus would be used longer without an upgrade, adding to the value.
 
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