Midrange Priced z170 Motherboard Suggestions

ou81waffle

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Recently I have decided to upgrade my current build (practically build a new PC). I have ran into some difficulty choosing my motherboard. After sifting through reviews on countless boards I narrowed it down to the Asus z170 Pro Gaming LGA 1151 Intel. However after digging deeper I found that Asus, for most people have terrible customer support. What mid ranged z170 motherboards do you suggest, and why?

This is my current ideal build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BLx4Z8
(Do you believe that this build is to overkill or have any issues)
 
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1. In your price range, to my eyes, the Gigabyte Gaming 7 has no peer. Its few bucks more but well worth it... gorgeous too
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3n7CmG/msi-motherboard-z170agamingm7

2. Consider that DDR4-3200 CAS 16 and DDR4-3000 CAS 15 is just $5 more
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qGqbt6/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvgb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yb8H99/gskill-memory-f43000c15d16grk

3. Run away as fast as you can from the EVGA FTW. It has a deficient design and the ones w/o thermal pads are still being reported in the sales channel. the Gigabyte is clocked faster at 1.72 Mhz and is $62 cheaper with VRM temps reaching 114C cause they cheaped on on thermal pads...

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Don't forget your storage and case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Ultra Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($148.47 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($669.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1325.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-22 22:11 EST-0500
 

ou81waffle

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I appreciate the very quick response. This was one of the boards that I considered, though It seems that many people have issues with it. What makes this board better than the Asus one above? is it just Gigabyte's better customer service?
 
1. In your price range, to my eyes, the Gigabyte Gaming 7 has no peer. Its few bucks more but well worth it... gorgeous too
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3n7CmG/msi-motherboard-z170agamingm7

2. Consider that DDR4-3200 CAS 16 and DDR4-3000 CAS 15 is just $5 more
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qGqbt6/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvgb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yb8H99/gskill-memory-f43000c15d16grk

3. Run away as fast as you can from the EVGA FTW. It has a deficient design and the ones w/o thermal pads are still being reported in the sales channel. the Gigabyte is clocked faster at 1.72 Mhz and is $62 cheaper with VRM temps reaching 114C cause they cheaped on on thermal pads
https://www.techpowerup.com/227133/evga-gtx-1070-1080-overheating-issues-company-says-thermal-pads-a-solution
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3fvZxr/gigabyte-video-card-gvn1080g1gaming8gd

4. I'd consider a 750 watter PSU, just in case someday you do to SLI and 4k
EVGA B2 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JYyFf7/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

If ya haven't picked case yet .... look at this:

Best case of the Year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQfRDSGlNqI

And even better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUkj23GgFE

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G78H99/phanteks-case-phes515etggs

The Luxe TG is another alternative
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vw8H99/phanteks-enthoo-luxe-tempered-glass-atx-full-tower-case-ph-es614ltg_ag

A 250 GB SSD of your choosing and a SSHD for storage will complete the build if don't have these already
Samsung Evo 250 GB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ck98TW/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz750250bw
Seagate 2 TB SSHD ($95 old version - $105 new version)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tR2kcf/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dx001
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NpBrxr/seagate-firecuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-hybrid-internal-hard-drive-st2000dx002

Lastly for the cooler ... the Hyper 212 just doesn't "fit" in a build in this price range. it is a great "budget cooler" ... but that is a very long way from saying it is a great cooler.

For best performance / noise ratio - the Noctua NH-D15 . If ya find the Noc a bit fugly, then look at the pretty Phanteks PH=TC14PE which comes in numerous colors to match your case. The white one will go well with the MoBo
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qX6BD3/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pe




It's just a matter of what you get for what ya pay... for example almost every board from the competition above about $110 comes with the standard audio subsytem for gaming (ALC 1150)... almost every board in this price range from Asus uses substandard ALC 887 ir 892. The Pro Gaming uses a ALC 1150 equivalent so it's good there. But what it comes down to is what I have started calling the RoG tax.

Asus gained a well deserved reputation over the years for giving customers a quality product with quality support. But both dropped precipitously with Z87 and Z97. Asus made a great comeback w/ Z170 performance wise but when ya look at componentry and user satisfaction, they still haven't come back to where they were. They still have some great boards... Sabertooth comes to mind but some boards need to be avoided. These are boards with > industry average RMA rates:

6,64% MSI Z170A Gaming Pro
5,17% MSI Z170A Gaming M5
5,00% ASUS Maximus VIII Hero
4,76% MSI Z170A Gaming M3
4,29% ASUS Z170-Deluxe
2,88% ASUS Z170-A
2,84% Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI
2,31% ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING

On newegg we have 154 users rating the board they own which gives us a pretty good, statistically valid sampling. Only 44% of Asus Z170 Pro Gaming board owners gave it 5 eggs... and almost a third (29%) gave it the worst possible 1 egg rating. And if ya take the position that those bad ratings come from inexperienced and unknowledgeable users... then why are all the smarter people buying other boards with less than helf that many 1 eggers.

The $160 Gaming 7 has only 15% 1 eggers and 55% 5 eggers. It also is approaching 400 users rating the board.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128835



 
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ou81waffle

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May 28, 2016
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Oh, wow. Thanks for all the information.

Paying a little more for the gaming 7 board will be significantly better, than the msi, and asus?
As of now the FTW 1080 is a disaster. Is there is no go to or "best" 1080 right now?

Shy away from Asus for the moment (poor customer service and the "rog tax")

This is how my build should look (even future proofed now) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LMhV2R

Thanks for the cool case suggestion (I'm just going to use my ssd and hhd from the old pc)

Appreciate everything you've done looks like it took some time.