First Build: Content Creation PC, Feedback and a Few Questions

reyaes

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I've spent the past week extensively researching the different components of a PC and their functions. Before now, I have had no experience working with hardware. I am confident I have come to a proper conclusion on what I will require from my first build. However, I would greatly appreciate askig some questions for feedback on my proposed build from the more experienced member base of this community.

Mostly I will be using my PC for audio recording and production. I will be using a combination of acoustic, MIDI and software based instruments. Beyond that, I anticipate to return to my old hobby of 3D and video game design. Screen capturing and video rendering will be part of this (Source Filmmaker, as one example), which I remember to be extremely demanding on my old system. Image editing will also fall under this umbrella. Gaming is a tertiary priority in this build. I will be playing some games, but not very often.

Here are the proposed specs of my build:


  • Intel i7-6800k
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Asus X-99 A II
    G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4-2400
    Samsung 960 EVO NVMe (1TB)
    EVGA Supernova 850W T2
    ID Cooling Frostflow 120L Closed-Loop CPU Cooler
    Intel Dual Band Wireless AC-8265
    NZXT Phantom 410

I have decided on the Intel i7-6800k for the two extra cores over the i7-6700k, sacrificing some clock speed. I presume working with content creation will benefit from such a CPU, especially since I will be regularly multitasking. The 28 PCIe lanes instead the 40 of most Broadwell-E CPUs should be enough, as I don't see myself going beyond a setup with two GPUs. Although, I fortunately don't have a budget for this build, so would it be just worth it to invest in a i7-6900k? I think the 6950X is just ridiculous, on that note. I also don't want to spend money on resources I won't end up utilizing.

I want to build a system with longevity in mind. I intend on upgrading as my needs and what software I will be using becomes more resource intensive. Will the X-99 A II Motherboard suffice? I looked at the Deluxe II and it honestly looked like overkill for my current needs. The A II also seems to me like it will be future friendly enough.

The memory and storage is where I'm not completely sure of my choices. From what I've read, with prices of DDR4 memory as low as they are, purchasing the newest and best technology available is ideal. G.Skill has regularly been mentioned as a good brand in my research, as well as Corsair. The current flagship brand by G.Skill, Trident Z, however doesn't have 2400MHZ memory which is what is approved for the i7-6800k. Corsair's top line of memory, Dominator Platinum, does. I chose G.Skill over Corsair because of G.Skill's recommendation on the Toms's Hardware best memory of 2016 article. Am I correct in my assumptions of purchasing memory? Would Corsair's Dominator Platinum be a better choice? Should I just buy 32GB instead of 16GB? As well, since the X-99 A II is rated for bandwidth up to 3333MHZ, would I benefit from purchasing a higher bandwidth? I haven't found any evidence in my research that going beyond what bandwidth the CPU is rated to handle would make any difference. Choosing memory is overwhelming, there being so many choices.

As for storage, it seemed like an overly simple choice for such a complex topic. Because of the DMI limit of the X99 chipset, an M.2 SSD will already hit or come very close to the 20Mbps bottleneck, also rendering a RAID setup redundant. Considering this, I took the same approach I took for choosing the memory, choosing the newest and best technology available. I picked the 1TB Samsung 960 EVO NVMe, again, from the Tom's Hardware Best Storage of 2016 article. Like with the memory, am I correct in my logic for this choice?

I've purposely gone overboard with the PSU and the CPU cooler, keeping longevity in mind. I can't see myself overclocking or running a setup with two or more GPUs now or anytime soon, but who knows? I've chosen the NZXT Phantom 410 as a Case, also because of it's TH Editor's Choice and it's access to four front panel USB ports instead of two, which is what I found most cases to offer.

The last specific question I have is about the NIC. Again I decided to choose the latest and best available, in this case from Intel. However, what I want to know is if the Intel Dual Band Wireless AC-8265 will work in a PCIe 2.0 slot? I'm confused here, since the specifications state the Board Form Factor to be "M.2 2230 or M.2 1216", and the System Interface Type to be "PCIe, USB". I want to reserve the X-99 A II's M.2 slot for the SSD.

This is quite the long post, but with this being my first build, I want to be certain I have everything right. Are there any other recommendations or changes that I can make for a better system? While I don't want to go overboard, I fortunately don't have a budget set for this build. Thanks for reading!
 
Hi, for someone that claims not to know much about hardware you've gone very in depth on this one! Good job.

Regarding the CPU, I'd be tempted to go for the i7-6700k. Unless you're using more than 4 cores the i7-6800k is going to be slower for more money. The games definitely won't get much (if any) use out of those extra cores. The audio production software might if you do something ridiculously heavy like 30+ software based instruments/tracks or something. With the video rendering system I'm really not sure, make a note of all the software you use and I'd check some benchmarks so see just how heavy and how multi-threaded it is. If the software is very heavily multithreaded and you're doing a huge amount of software instruments and effects in your audio stuff the i7-6900k may be worth it.

With the memory, if you're going for an X99 based build I would get a maximum of 2400Mhz. I work for a system builder in the UK and do a lot of overclocking on these systems and the memory controllers on those chips fail so easily if ran above 2400Mhz. I've had chips running at 3000Mhz (memory) fail in 1 day, those that don't are always back within a few weeks. In terms of the brand, most of it is made by the same OEM's anyway (Micron/Samsung etc.) so there isn't a huge difference in reliability between brands. I'd just get whichever offers best value out of the major brands (Corsair/G.Skill/Kingston/Crucial etc.) You might as well get those with the heatspreaders, they are totally unnecessary but the difference in cost is almost nothing. In terms of capacity I'd go for 32GB at this budget, even most mid range gaming machines get 16GB these days and your usage sounds pretty RAM hungry.

At this kind of budget I'd definitely go for an NVMe based M.2. drive like the one you suggested. Your editing/rendering software will likely make good use of all that raw speed. You should be aware though that all of these drives throttle horribly because they have no heatsinks and are often placed somewhere in the case with horrible airflow. With some kind of dedicated cooling these perform MUCH better.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Samsung-950-Pro-M-2-Throttling-Analysis-776/#Conclusion

Some small adhesive heatsinks directly on the chips on the M.2. drive work wonders for that.

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4SR1WU8954&cm_re=adhesive_copper_heatsink-_-9SIA4SR1WU8954-_-Product

That kind of thing stuck on the memory chips on the M.2. drive should do it. Another option is an adapter like this with a heatsink on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8RU34D7515&cm_re=m.2._adapter-_-9SIA8RU34D7515-_-Product


Really is personal preference but I'd go for air cooling over an all in one hydro cooler. There's no pump so there's one less thing to fail and they tend to be cheaper/quieter. The temps will be a bit higher but not by much. Currently that system needs around 500W+ so agreed that 850W is overkill but up to you of course.
 

reyaes

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Dec 24, 2016
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Thank you for the input! I had not thought of checking benchmarks for specific software. Although an audio workstation may benefit from extra cores, I understand your point of favoring the i7-6700k. Thinking about it, the 6700k would be more suited for my current requirements. By the time I need more performance, I anticipate that Intel will have released a new generation of CPUs and chipset. I will adopt the ASUS Z170 A Motherboard and 2133MHZ memory to accommodate the different CPU. That will save me a good chunk of change I can better allocate to investing later on when I have a better idea of what I will need.

I would have not considered a heat sink for the M.2 SSD either. Thank you for the recommendation. I will also consider an air cooler over a hydro cooler for the CPU.
 
If you're not overclocking the Xeon 1230v5 might even be a good idea. Basically the same chip running at 3.4Ghz but much cheaper and supposedly more reliable. That may be true considering it runs at a slower speed. The matching Gigabyte GA-X150M-PLUS board also happens to be on a pretty ridiculous deal on Amazon atm as well so you can get the chip and a decent board for less than a i7-6700k would cost.

I know you're not on a budget as such but the value for money here would be really good.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V5 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($251.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X150M-PLUS WS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($58.50 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card ($384.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-AC55 USB 3.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($43.79 @ B&H)
Other: Sintech M.2(NGFF) M Key PCI-e SSD to PCIe X4 Adapter Card For Samsung XP941 SM951 M6E PM951 950 PRO ($21.99)
Total: $1336.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-25 20:11 EST-0500

There's something to give you an indication of how cheaply this can be done, I'd use that a baseline and upgrade whatever you think.
 

reyaes

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Dec 24, 2016
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Despite not having a budget for this build, I do prefer to save money where I can. There are some excellent recommendations in your proposed build. I hadn't considered ways of saving money like with a Xenon CPU or C232 chipset. As I had mentioned, I would prefer to allocate funds to a later upgrade.

Using a non-reference GPU hadn't occurred to me either. I will make use of this PCPartPicker website. Thanks!