Ryzen in laptops?

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TheRFSpark

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Hey guys I had a question. Do you think AMD new cpu Ryzen will be in laptops? I'm wanting to get a gaming laptop but don't want to pay out the ass for Intel. I've looked around and can't find anything but someone might have the answer :p
 
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Early Zen models looks to compete with Intel's high-ideally desktop platform, socket 2011v3, which has a high TDP and no integrated GPU. Desktop APUs which compete with Intel's desktop mainstream socket 1151 will follow at a later date. I've heard no mention of mobile yet but I'd be surprised if they didn't eventually happen.
 
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check with alt vendors, white box type guys. some of the ryzen chips operate on 65 watts!! wouldn't be the first time these guys stuck a desktop processor in a large 17 gaming lappie.
 
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yes they will it is going to be 8core cpu's in laptops idk when they came out
 
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AMD told Laptop Mag that "we expect to see Ryzen in the mobile space in the second half of 2017."

These will likely be in the form of an APU, or accelerated processing unit. That's a marketing term that AMD uses to refer to a CPU and integrated graphics in one chip.
 
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I hope to see a Ryzen APU with HBM dual graphics with a dedicated vega inside. It will be a killer for laptop gaming, and the next step on console hardware, the AMD ecosystem concept. I believe this is what microsoft - amd are developing for project scorpio (i don't know if HBM or not, but it could be awesome)
 
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Don't expect it quickly. AMD rushed Ryzen to market and went top down this time (fast chips first).... with good reason. Ryzen seems to scale exceptionally so power draw is not an issue, but the power management drivers are not even 1.0 now on desktops (See the fact that everyone reviewing so far has to use it in High-Performance mode to evade software clock stepping so it clocks in 1ms increments).

ASUS, HP and Dell etc etc already have enough thermal challenges presented by the idea of many-core budget laptops, but one that cannot step in software will use far more raw watts than one that can (hardware stepping is not context aware at all, so all chips have to be in a ready-to-go state and cannot deep sleep). I believe the issue is a programming one on Windows side of things.

Simply put, AMD wants to do things that Windows doesn't provide the ability to right now... It happened with Phenom 2 and Windows of the time never actually gained the ability to fully use the power management stack of that chip. Knowing that the problem is to do with the speed at which AMD is able to power step, and that is a rather fundamental issue from the point of view of a Laptop maker (what goes into your Laptop BIOS better work because it probably will never be updated by 95% of users), I expect you won't see mobile chips in units until at least September, probably next year.
 
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Oh, and you can bet on not seeing a Ryzen 4/8 or higher with IGP because any IGP will likely take the place of a complete CCX module rather than 2 half modules. Why? Space. Ryzen 4/8 are binned cores with 1 core from each CCX disabled Take a look at Intel dies and how much of the space is occupied by the GPU unit and it's a simplish guess that 6/12 with 1 CCX disabled (aka the Zen/Greenland APU combo we've been seeing since forever) is much more where AMD want to go.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do a second die with a big GPU and only 2/4 and 4/8 support later, but that's definitely Ryzen 2 sorta stuff and will cut into much needed profits if done this early.
 
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