Why does my GTX 1080 runs very poorly.

Gjunki 619

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I got the FTW SC edition, the one with the highest base/boost clock speed and I'm barely getting 60FPS consistently in BF1. I cannot for the life of me even reach 60FPS and sometimes I tend to dip a lot out of nowhere. My monitor even has G Sync enabled and it runs terribly with a lot of FPS lag. My CPU could be the culprit here since its an old 3770k or maybe my RAM, I highly doubt its the RAM though. I'm using a PG279Q monitor and playing not even on High (not Ultra settings, although there seems to be no difference as far as FPS goes between the 2 optimizations). Did I make a mistake purchasing a 1080 and new monitor without updating my CPU or am I missing something? At this point I see barely any difference between my 680 and 1080.
PS: Watched a youtube video and the guy playing BF1 @1440p had consistently 110+ FPS witha 4790k
EDIT: My CPU usage hovers from 78-85% consistently when playing BF1. Is that bad and can it be negatively effecting my FPS?
 

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If you question your CPU try lowering the settings all the way down as well as the resolution as low as it goes. what ever that frame rate is it the max frame rate your CPU can manage at any graphic/resolution setting assuming of course your GPU can keep up. If you find the same issues with low settings/resolution then your hitting a CPU bottleneck and you need to upgrade it to do any better.
 

uklio

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You should definitely be able to hit above 60fps with that CPU as shown here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDo-j00vUtw
And the difference in fps between CPU's gets reduced as resolution increases as games become more video card bound.
Try running a benchmark such as 3Dmark firestrike and compare your graphics score with other 1080 scores. Also perhaps your cpu is running in power saving mode and downclocking. Select Performance mode in Windows power options and see if that helps.
 

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My CPU not using enough power is not the issue, its running at over 90% usage. I think its the clock speed honestly, might need to OC. Theres basically no difference in FPS whether I play on Ultra or Low settings.
 

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are you monitoring its speed and temps?


is it boosting to 3.9 ghz? or staying at idle?


what are max temps while under load?
 

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I OC'd my CPU to 4.5ghz and its hitting 4.5ghz during gameplay at 1.35V. The temp is outrageous at 88-92C so I'm afraid I'm going to burn my CPU out and the FPS still sucks since its hardly hitting 60 FPS still. OCing from 3.5-4.5 helped very slightly that anyone else wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
 

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there is your issue

thermal throttling = cpu slows down to keep alive


get the temps under control, you want to be in the mid 60's while under full load
 

Gjunki 619

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I truly believe that is not the culprit what so ever, sorry. My GPU isn't even achieving 100% usage I'm pretty sure its a driver/hardware issue at this point my CPU should be fine.
As you can see the CPU temp is stable under stress: https://gyazo.com/6ba82a3c58868394bd0d7cab1b4f1d30
GPU: https://gyazo.com/ab21b5172eb37e5883e7e1387c825a68

 

Gjunki 619

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I truly believe that is not the culprit what so ever, sorry. My GPU isn't even achieving 100% usage I'm pretty sure its a driver/hardware issue at this point my CPU should be fine.
As you can see the CPU temp is stable under stress: https://gyazo.com/6ba82a3c58868394bd0d7cab1b4f1d30
GPU: https://gyazo.com/ab21b5172eb37e5883e7e1387c825a68

 

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Your GPU will not hit 100% usage if the CPU is what is limiting performance.

Load temperatures of 88-92 C are far too high, and indicate you likely have a cooling issue. Even if it is not the cause of your FPS drops, I would really recommend you take care of it.
 

atomicWAR

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have you checked your CPU usage while gaming. if any threads are over 90% you hitting a CPU bottleneck (even if caused by other software/tasks). If that is the case you may need to reinstall windows and see if that helps as stated earlier your CPU should be capable of more then 60FPS. If a reinstall fixes nothing you have a cpu bottleneck period (ie back ground tasks are not contributing to the issue and it is all your CPU is capable of).
 

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3770k should be totally ok for that system, that's a good, strong, robust CPU regardless it's age. Yours gets up to 88-92 while gaming? Means either you have a stock cooler or bad BIOS config or you game in sauna :). Load optimized defaults without the OC, check everything is stable and get CPU temp below 70 under load. You need an aftermarket cooler for OC'ing.

I bet with BIOS defaults, DDU fresh driver install and CPU temp below 70 you get fantastic results. I haven't seen your config, provided power/ram is ok your rig should get very good fps.

Once you get above 4.0GHz, you can forget the CPU and concentrate on stability, in gaming the difference is not noticeable enough to outweigh juicing your CPU.
Unless you fully know what you're doing I just wouldn't even bother, just set it to a mild 5-10% increase, leave the vcore or increase 1 notch.

The 1080 will do most of the work, a properly configured CPU should not spike like that. And you probably didn't break it because that CPU is robust.

It's not high frequency that yields good results, it's stability + frequency.
 

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Turns out boosting my Voltage has a direct impact on the amount of Power % drawn by my GPU. How do I boost my Voltage even further using EVGA Precision X?
Its currently at 100% voltage but still not using 100% power and still floats about 66-70% under stress. Can I up this so I can use about 1.2V instead of 1.093V?
Pic included on Precision UI: https://gyazo.com/c4bbf112ecfca3c017f447a891e9daf7
 

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Did you watch that video I linked? The CPU looked fine for 60 plus fps with a 1080. If something is choking your cpu +90% sounds way to high for gaming. That's video encoding territory.
 

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So basically the 3770k is still fine but for CPU intensive games the 6700k gives about 15 FPS more using the same card. What is this about video encoding that you're saying? Overvolting has helped my FPS for now but I'm still not getting 100% Power usage out of my GPU, still stuck at ~80% even on Valley Benchmarks.

 

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You can do whatever you want with the 3770k and 6700k chips, you couldn't break them if you tried(due to OC'ing). Increase the voltage as you please but you should have good cooling. To answer your original question whether you feel you should of bought a new CPU, I say absolutely not. I wouldn't replace your CPU unless if it was for 6700k or better. Smells like a config issue, you can't just increase voltage and expect the same stability.
 

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My HWMonitor 12V isn't there, is this a problem? https://gyazo.com/bbe082f8377e71a4996b17bcadc0a980
That is what my GPU looks like under load: https://gyazo.com/6e54836af3e8aa901481b8f28344a65f
GPU-Z: https://gyazo.com/9a59330c852152d1b45c3549f9960dca
GPU Sensors: https://gyazo.com/5a594d2e32f90800e2a8f4ffeb6d8c03

If you could take a look at those links and point out something that is wrong that would be much appreciated. Just FYI my core clock speed seems to me stuck at 1987 even though I have no games running at all just Google Chrome. Makes have need to turn on the fan AND have high resting temps which cant be good.
 

LogicBomb31

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Download HWinfo, it's a mobo compatibility issue. 39deg is too good, did you let the temps peaks? Probably not an overheat issue with a new card.

I'd start defaulting stuff, BIOS, geforce CP, monitor settings and use 3dMark or FurMark to test.

I have a 6700k/980ti/g-sync monitor and I get over 100 fps, but not in action heavy action obviously.
 

uklio

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Dude, reset your bios settings to stock voltage/speed as suggested earlier. It sounds like a throttling issue as your CPU is running too hot when gaming. Gaming is not supposed to use 100% CPU, that's only for video compression or other CPU intensive tasks.
 

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Figured it out, my GPU was being blocked from using x8 PCIe3.0 slot and was only using x2 as you can see from the Gyazo's that I linked. Thanks for the input either way, appreciate it.