Can I upgrade from Geforce GTX 650 to Geforce GTX 1050 Ti?

Koen999 · Dec 28, 2016

Hi,

I don't know a lot about hardware and I would like some confirmation about this. So I won't run into any problems, like power supply shortage or RAM memory/motherboard not being able to work out with the new graphics card.

My specs:
https://gyazo.com/338a9334c8ec8db2e5d6cd6684b88c3d
Please tell me if you need any additional information (and how I can find it)

Side question: Anyone knows why my motherboard is 122 degrees Celsius? I hardly believe that's even true...

Thanks

Update:
Power supply (it connected to my old video card with a 6-pin cable):
https://gyazo.com/9e1d2987e1eedf8d8032c04b82aac299

Motherboard photo (without my current video card, but it was located in the PCIEX16_1 slot):
https://gyazo.com/15627dce63378a247019ecc15d7e89b2

Current video card (~11,5 cm by 14.5 cm):
https://gyazo.com/bc6fb64ad0406c1d7235a4063ffde97f

Zomb0matic · Dec 29, 2016

There are many different GTX 1050Tis, and they all have different dimensions. 14.5cm is rather short though, so I would measure the length of the gpu headroom in your case and see if it's long enough. Otherwise, you can definitely upgrade. Some 1050Tis don't even need external power, running off the PCIE power.

Koen999 · Dec 29, 2016

Zomb0matic :

So, other than space in my computercase, you think I don't have to worry about power supply or compatibilty with my other parts?

dstarr3 · Dec 29, 2016

The 1050/Ti cards require very little power, likely less than your current GPU. Your current PSU will be fine. So long as your case is big enough to fit it, you're good to go.

The misconception a lot of people have is that as computers get more powerful, they consume more power. Actually, the opposite is true. Not only are computers getting more powerful every generation, but also more efficient. Current components are always doing more with less. So since you're doing such a parallel upgrade, going from a 650 to a 1050, you can expect, at most, identical power consumption. Most likely, less power consumption. All while being more powerful.

Koen999 · Dec 29, 2016

dstarr3 :

I am know hesitating to buy the Geforce GTX 1060 EVGA FTW+ acx3.0. Would this also be the same, power wise? Also, is a 1060 worth the extra money over a 1050 Ti, qua performance?

dstarr3 · Dec 29, 2016

The 1060 is a real solid card. Whether it's worth your extra money over the 1050Ti, can't really say, it's your money. But it's worth noting that even the 1050Ti would be a really very noticeable performance boost. On the other hand, the 1060 could keep you happy longer and save you money in the long run. There's an argument to be made for either.

Looking at nVidia's website, both your 650 and the 1060 require a 400W PSU. According to your photo above, you've got a 450W. So, 1050Ti or 1060, you're good.

Regarding EVGA's lineup, I don't know if you need the OC bells and whistles the FTW variant gets you. You might could save some money and get just the SC variant. Unless there's a weird sale on the FTW is on sale for less than the SC. Gigabyte also makes a very interesting single-fan, short-PCB 1060. I'm partial to EVGA, myself, but Gigabyte is also a very good manufacturer.

Koen999 · Dec 29, 2016

dstarr3 :

Thank you for your fast and good reactions. You seem like you have a lot of knowledge about this. I have another question for you: why are there cards with a single fan and with double fan? Why are the double fans usually more expansive? What is the pro of two fans?

And also, is it worth to pay ~50 euros more for 6 gb instead of 3 gb, for the 1060 card?

dstarr3 · Dec 29, 2016

Personally, yes, I would invest in the 6GB version. These days, the first thing that renders a GPU obsolete is the amount of RAM. If you go with 6GB, that card should stay useful for a very long time.

Really, two fans are going to be better in pretty much every way than a single fan. The only reason to go with a single-fan card is because of physical size. It's not to say single-fan cards are bad, it's just that dual-fan cards outperform them at least a little in every way (except size). First thing that comes to mind is noise. If you have two fans, they can run slower and still cool as well, and slower fans mean quieter fans. This isn't to say a single-fan card will necessarily be loud, per se, but it will likely be a bit louder than dual-fan cards, because that one fan will have to work harder.

There's a couple reasons dual-fan cards tend to be more expensive, as well. Sheer cost of materials is one. Small heatsinks are cheaper than big heatsinks, so single-fan cards save some money there. But I think the biggest reason is that since the single-fan cards can't cool themselves as efficiently, they are downclocked slightly to prevent overheating. It's only a tiny performance hit, not likely something you'd notice, especially if you don't have a dual-fan version to reference off of. But it's something they do. And since it's a lower-clocked card, it's priced as such compared to other similar cards. On the dual-fan cards, however, they OC those as far as the chips will go because the cooling can, for the most part, handle it. So all your highest-performing cards are going to be dual-fan cards, and their highest-performing nature explains their larger price tags.

So, like I said, dual-fan cards are going to be better in just about every way, at least a little. But if your case won't fit it, it's not going to do you any good. So the single-fan option is good to have.

Koen999 · Dec 30, 2016

dstarr3 :

Personally, yes, I would invest in the 6GB version. These days, the first thing that renders a GPU obsolete is the amount of RAM. If you go with 6GB, that card should stay useful for a very long time.

Really, two fans are going to be better in pretty much every way than a single fan. The only reason to go with a single-fan card is because of physical size. It's not to say single-fan cards are bad, it's just that dual-fan cards outperform them at least a little in every way (except size). First thing that comes to mind is noise. If you have two fans, they can run slower and still cool as well, and slower fans mean quieter fans. This isn't to say a single-fan card will necessarily be loud, per se, but it will likely be a bit louder than dual-fan cards, because that one fan will have to work harder.

There's a couple reasons dual-fan cards tend to be more expensive, as well. Sheer cost of materials is one. Small heatsinks are cheaper than big heatsinks, so single-fan cards save some money there. But I think the biggest reason is that since the single-fan cards can't cool themselves as efficiently, they are downclocked slightly to prevent overheating. It's only a tiny performance hit, not likely something you'd notice, especially if you don't have a dual-fan version to reference off of. But it's something they do. And since it's a lower-clocked card, it's priced as such compared to other similar cards. On the dual-fan cards, however, they OC those as far as the chips will go because the cooling can, for the most part, handle it. So all your highest-performing cards are going to be dual-fan cards, and their highest-performing nature explains their larger price tags.

So, like I said, dual-fan cards are going to be better in just about every way, at least a little. But if your case won't fit it, it's not going to do you any good. So the single-fan option is good to have.

Thanks for your help mate! Really appreciated! I think I am gonna buy the dual fan 6gb 1060 card. It should fit, the only thing in the way are some cables but they should be able to move a little.

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