New motherboard, same other hardware parts, shutdown after 30-40 mins restart with no signal all fans spins

Locarius · Dec 29, 2016

Hello i hope you guys can help me on this to start with my specs:

-Intel i5-3540 3rd Gen processor 3.10 GHz.
-Motherboard ASrock h61-vg3.
- HDD Western Digital 3 TB Black.
- PSU CORSAIR 800GS 800W.
- 2X4 GB KINGSTON HYPERX BLU 1600 RAM.
- NVIDIA EVGA GTX 980 SC 4GB VIDEO.

Now with that out of the way, here is the problem i used to have a ASUS P8B75-M/CSM great motherboard until some of the pins were moved, i decided to get a new motherboard and got the h61-vg3 from ASrock, turns out it was smaller than the other one, but i manage to fit everything fine and it seemed that it was going to work just fine.

Well first i boot it and got to the BIOS it detected everything, except that the rams were running at 1033 than 1600 or even 1333 frequency, i didnt pay attention to that but then decided to let windows 7 ultimate run and install motherboard drivers, well it didnt want to start, until i read somebody in this forum to swich from AHCI to IDE, windows 7 now loaded and detected a couple of new hardware it installed and restarted just fine.

Have to say thought that before doing this my pc was shutting down and restarting but when it restarted the fans spins all of them including the video card, but no signal, it does seem to be running thought as the hard drive i s indeed working, tried with integrated graphics as well same result, sometimes its 30 sometimes its 40 mins...is really weird i already re-seated rams cpu cooler and such...

Would gladly recieve any help. Thanks

Paul NZ · Dec 29, 2016

Dont think switching from AHCI t IDE was the prob. Since Win7's install has SATA drivers

If the hdd was in an old system, (and if it had an OS on it), you did do a clean install right?

jrrdmchls · Dec 29, 2016

Paul has a very good question. DID you resintall windows after you installed the new MB? If you didn't there's probably driver issues.

Locarius · Dec 29, 2016

Here is the thing, when it was at AHCI it didnt boot windows 7 at all, then i read somewhere that somebody suggested to swich from AHCI to IDE, and as soon as i did it windows 7 booted without any problem, besides the shutdown issue.

I did forget to say thought that in BIOS once it also shutdown, im not sure if there are any settings the mobo might be doing different and sense why it shutsdown but there is no BSOD or anything at all.

jrrdmchls · Dec 29, 2016

Locarius :

Reinstall Windows. My suggestion.

Locarius · Dec 29, 2016

jrrdmchls :

Ok, i might have to save my data first with the 30 mins mark, but here is the question, if your pc shutsdown even in BIOS does that have to do with windows 7 thats what i want to understand , because i thought BIOS and OS is separated from eachother isnt it ?

It even did it on the windows 7 iso disk

Paul NZ · Dec 29, 2016

It would have been on IDE originally on the old system, (when windows was installed).

If you change it to AHCI it'd crash on yours. With a 0x0000007b stop error.

Because no sata drivers were installed on the old system and because AHCI wasnt enabled in the BIOS

AHCI need SATA drivers to install windows, IDE mode doesn't.

Thats why it worked when you changed it to IDE on the new system

Thats probably what it said / and what you read. Why you changed it to IDE

jrrdmchls · Dec 29, 2016

Locarius :

I'm not a computer Genius or anything. But BIOS stands for Basic Input Output System. I believe your BIOS interacts with the Operating System. Since the Old drivers for you old board are still in place its probably confusing your OS and causing it to crash. Back up your files somewhere safe and reinstall windows. IF you still have issues hit us up again.

Paul NZ · Dec 29, 2016

If you install a hdd with an OS on it in another system it can crash because of the hardware, chipset and drivers from the old system. If theyre still on the hdd

Locarius · Dec 29, 2016

All right guys i will try to backup the files, and reinstall windows 7, since i got many partitions it should be easy to move the data to my other ones and only delete windows OS. Will let you guys know if this works perfectly

Paul NZ · Dec 29, 2016

Locarius · Dec 30, 2016

Im trying to backup some files but it keeps shutting down not enough for me to backup , but well might just leave what i could and then reinstall. My worry is that it will shutdown during installation, because it even does it after a while, for example it shutsdown then i turn it off and turn it on then it will boot but it will shutdown even at the BIOS, hopefully reinstalling win 7 will do the trick.

Paul NZ · Dec 30, 2016

Sounds like a PSU prob if it keeps on shutting down. Or a connection is loose in the case

If anything in the case is connected with molex connectors (which thankfully I dont use on this except for a fan), they have a habit of coming out. Result whatever its connected to, obviously loses power

Locarius · Dec 30, 2016

Here is the thing the PSU ive been using it for years and its really good no problem whatsoever, and ive checked the cables the 24 pin one and the 4 pin atx one for the motherboard theyre both powered fine as far as i can see. I mean i dont think theyre loose or anything, arent those the 2 priority ones to power up the motherboard and components? My videocard also has the 2 4 pin and 6 pin connectors plug just fine, i tried pushing down the videocard as much as i could but im afraid i might broke the motherboard if i keep putting pression on it.

Any thoughts on what else on the connection side might be, this one came with a USB 2.0 on the motherboard but i dont have those plug since i used usb 3.0 connector i only have that cable not the other one .

PS: I do remember y curiosity that when i used Everest software to check my information of system, it stated all the components just fine but the model of the motherboard was unkown but it did show the chipset and version of what it was running....you think it has to do with drivers?

Paul NZ · Dec 30, 2016

Only thing I can think off, did you put standoffs in the case. It maybe shorting?

Locarius · Dec 30, 2016

It has one standoff only the rest are 3 smaller screws that came for the motherboard mount with the case box which is a corsair 300D or R i forgot the letter, you think that may shutdown the computer or cause shorts?

Paul NZ · Dec 30, 2016

So if theres 6 holes for the standoffs theres only one standoff in the case?

If this is the case it maybe hitting the side of the case when you install something on the mobo.

If you try to do it with force

Locarius · Dec 30, 2016

Paul NZ :

Theres only 4 holes with the asrock h61m-vg3 it has one standoff right now the corsair case has it so it can mount all types of motherboard size atm im using 4 of the holes that the case has that goes directly to the motherboard.

UPDATE: I unmounted the motherboard and start checking for anything screws or similar, clean the case a bit more, then i inserted 2 standoff one is from the case cant move it and another one i manage to get it to move to a spot where the micro ATX would actually fit, but still lack other 2 standoff , so theres 2 holes that im afraid to put screw on those but the case which is a corsair 300R came with only those 2 and the rest screws smaller for motherboards and well then the normal ones.

The pc after i put everything back, it booted and lasted about 40 mins and maybe a bit more, but then the same thing happened. I might try to reinstall windows 7 but i doubt that its gonna solve this issue as it seems to be doing it at random times between 30-40 mins..and when it reboots it shows no signal on the monitor but everything else does seem to be running.

UPDATE 2: About the power V that certain components have including ram they seem to be fine well, not sure if fine fine but for example when it says 3.30+ as default i get 3.39v it usually stay stable, on the 12v+ its about 12v+ so its not below or way too up its usually a difference of 0.05-0.09

Locarius · Jan 2, 2017

You guys think it might be faulty motherboard that can cause this ? Im thinking that it might be this .

jrrdmchls · Jan 3, 2017

Locarius :

OK I just want to clarify that you dont have enough standoffs for the motherboard? But you used the existing screw holes on the case and just ran a screw through the MB hole into the Case? If any part of the MB touches the case (other than where the mounting holes are) this can cause ground issues and this could very well cause the reboot issue. You need to install stand offs for ALL the holes on the motherboard. Where the screw holes are is the only place that should touch the case.

If this does not fix your issue, a new PSU should be your next purchase. If its a number of years old it could be partially failing and no matter how much testing you do you wont catch it failing.

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