Corsair DDR4 LPX C15 compatibility with kaby lake

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I got 16Gigs of Corsair vengeance C15 3000Mhz RAM. I am building a custom gaming rig and is waiting for kaby-lake to be released.
I want to this memory is/will be compatible with kaby lake processors with 200 series motherboards.

Any help will be appreciated.

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I'll let you know in a couple of days with first hand information. Just ordered some of the white modules for a Gigabyte Aorus 5 (newegg) and a new i7-7700k (amazon). Newegg has i5-7600k for $250.

Official release date is today, and there are a few around. Not everybody had everything up or in stock. Which is why I stuck to the big retailers. Newegg has let me down before, I think I ordered my GTX1080 on release day 2 or 3 times from them, ended up getting it from Amazon.

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I read about about kaby-lake compatibility that they support DDR4/DDR3L memory type. But I read somewhere on corsair website that the compatibility for this memory is X99 and 100 series platform, thats why I was a little confused. I got this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=twister_B01M33CGCY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
 

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Doesn't look like an X99 memory kit, generally those are in sets of 4 for quad channel memory. Corsair is the seller though, so you would hope they would know what they are talking about.

The DDR4 standards are pretty much set now. 1.2-1.35 volts 2133 (Skylake/Haswell-E) 2400 for (Broadwell-E/Kabylake)

3000Mhz is a little overclock, but since it is asking for 1.35 volts that means you'll likely have to overclock the CPU to achieve it.

Been looking at picking up a kit of that myself.
 

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Thanks for the information, Eximo.

I am not into overclocking stuff that much until now. But I'm building my first gaming rig and I want it to be with latest components. I have already for GTX 1070 and 16Gigs RAM.

Actually, while purchasing sky-lake and compatible motherboard, I came to know about kaby-lake release date, so decided to wait for it.

Since, you seem to be pretty much experienced about this stuff, can you recommend If I should wait few days more and go with kaby-lake and if it is worth the wait. Also, will it would be good if I go with i5 or i7 as I'll using the machine mostly for gaming.

Thanks in advance!
 

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I'll let you know in a couple of days with first hand information. Just ordered some of the white modules for a Gigabyte Aorus 5 (newegg) and a new i7-7700k (amazon). Newegg has i5-7600k for $250.

Official release date is today, and there are a few around. Not everybody had everything up or in stock. Which is why I stuck to the big retailers. Newegg has let me down before, I think I ordered my GTX1080 on release day 2 or 3 times from them, ended up getting it from Amazon.
 
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Okay! Thanks, Eximo.
I'm from India and these modules are not yet available here.
Also, along with the processor, do let me know about the compatible motherboard (Asus I think or something you suggest).

Also, how would you let me know, in reply to this thread or else somehow.

 

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Okay, Eximo. I'll wait and proceed for purchase after then.
Also, if the memory module is compatible with 200-series motherboard, please suggest some motherboard(s) for me to buy (less than $200).
I am thinking of buying an Asus one, as my graphics card is ROG Strix series and Asus Strix motherboard will be a match for it.
 

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Motherboard arrived early. Confirmed. A simple selection of the first memory profile brought it up to 3000Mhz at 1.35 volts. No issues (even breadboarded)

i7-7700k
Gigabyte Z270X Aorus Gaming 5
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000 (2x8GB) (White)
Samsung 960 Evo 1TB

Sadly my case arrived missing a piece, so now I am waiting to hear back on that before building. If I care enough it likely means shipping the case back to get another one.
 

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I am thinking of getting i5-7600K CPU and Asus Z270E motherboard here.

As this is my first custom build, I'm not into overclocking that much as of now but will try later afterwards. For the form-factor, I'm guessing there is much free space in ATX than in mATX, so thinking of going with ATX one (link provided).

Also, as for the SSD, I'm thinking of 850 EVO 256GB, would it be fine, any suggestions?

This is the complete configuration, I'm targeting on:

Core i5 7600K
Asus GTX 1070 Strix (factory overclocked)
Samsung 850 EVO 256GB
Corsair LPX C15 3000MHz
Asus Z270E Gaming (not yet decided)
Corsair 650Watt PSU
Cooler Master Hyper 212X CPU Fan etc.

Can you suggest, if I need to change something in this, I have already purchased, Graphics card and RAM and waiting before ordering other components. Also, this motherboard is available for ~280$ (here in India), is it worth to get this or should I go with other cheaper boards? I just want my build to have the latest available components(till now).

Thankyou very much for your time and help, Eximo. Really appreciated. :wahoo:
 

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It would work. You've left off a few specifics but nothing really jumps out.

I don't really have easy access to check India prices or availability, but that seems like a pretty serious board. ROG are always pricey, but now they've added the Strix branding and got rid of the red.
 

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No problem. I just want your opinion if is it worth to spend this much on the motherboard? It got in-built wi-fi(reason to consider maybe). Will it be good for a machine to last ~4-5 years for compatibility and all. As VR is in emerging so maybe in upcoming 0.5-1 years, if I want to try VR will it support it.
Also, in future, if I want to try over-clocking and all, will be compatible and robust with that as well.

Also, which in your opinion is best, Asus or Gigabyte or some other brand series?

If you can suggest any other motherboard which will work best in these situations with this config that would be good as well. As far as the pricing idea goes, components here in India is ~90-95$ costlier than in US.

 

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VR isn't really dependent on the motherboard in any way. And pretty much any late model GPU is at least compatible with VR.

There are cheaper boards with WiFi, and you can also just get an expansion card with any uATX or ATX motherboard.

ROG boards are quite good at overclocking, but on the average, almost any Z class board will do 95% of the same job. ROG boards offer a lot of gaming-centric features. The motherboard BIOS is very configurable for overclocking.

I've only used ASUS and Gigabyte in recent years. I'd have to go back to the early 2000s when I had an MSI board, and before that some brands that really no longer compete.

Haven't yet set down and done any overclocking on my new Gigabyte board, and my other Z87 Gigabyte board has an i3 in it, so I haven't messed with it. But my not so great i7-4770k has managed 4.3Ghz for 3.5-4 years on my ROG Maximus VI Hero. I would say in hindsight that I certainly over-paid for that board, but it was still about what I just paid for the Gigabyte (Both were bought on release day though)
 

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Okay!
As you have mentioned, ROG offers many gaming centric features, I'll probably try my hand on overlooking once my setup is complete.So at the end, the brands shoRT listed to Gigabyte and Asus then. Which boards will you prefer if you are buying one for yourself. ROG or Gigabyte and which model?
I will buy the one you recommend! (y)
 

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Well I think that is clear, I literally just bought the Aorus Gaming 5. It is listed above. Fairly expensive though and I almost went the next step up to the 7, but I couldn't really see a big enough difference.

Given the other parts price, and I am not done yet, it is a $1600 build, and I already have a $650 GPU, and a pile of watercooling parts to put in. All told it will end up around $2400 (Not including peripherals)

I looked hard at ASUS Prime series, but I wanted a higher end board that was black and white. Dual NICs was the one compromise the Hero VI had. I like having two, as I have had onboard ethernet die on me before. ASUS also hasn't been doing too well on their roundups of late, in both GPU and Motherboard reviews. Seems they reached the top and are letting quality slip Maximus VIII Hero reportedly had a lot of issues at launch.

A little disappointing that a big chunk of the white on the Gigabyte board is useless plastic, but they are all pretty much like that now.
 

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Okay, Thanks for everything Eximo!
I can proceed with my build now.
Finally, back to the basic question- the memory is fully compatible with 200-series, there won't be any issues with working and over-clocking. Isn't it?
 

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I haven't thoroughly tested anything yet, but it boots up and using the XMP profile provided the rated frequency. Overclocking is variable, but I tend to not overclock my memory beyond the included profile.

If I want faster memory I will purchase a faster kit, but I don't like the uncertainty that the highest end kits offer. 3000Mhz seemed like a decent increase over potential stock without going too far.

I usually pick a kit that runs at the rated voltage, not the maximum.
 

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Yes, I won't be overclocking the memory beyond its rated voltage. I was just confused about the compatibility mentioned on the corsair website - "compatible with 100-series boards".
Now, as you said it is working with your Z270X, I believe other Z270* would also wor without any issues.
Also, can you suggest if i5-7600K would be enough for gaming and spending more on i7 will make that much of a significant difference?
 

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I haven't had an i5 before, but from all accounts they do well enough. Recent benchmarks show about a 10-15% performance increase between the i5 and i7 kabylake chips when running at the same clock speed, in some games at least. Newer titles should fair better with the i7, those eight logical cores will come in handy as they start coding for DX12.
 

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Hey Eximo,

Have you tested your setup. I have decided to but i5 7600K with Asus Z270E motherboard. Just want to get final good-to-go call from your side. ;)

Also, I'm a bit confused about SSD and Normal HDD. I am buying a Samsung 850 EVO250GB SSD and Seagate baracuda 2TB HDD. I'll install my OS and main used apps in SSD and will install games in HDD, as I won't be able to install all my games into the SSD. Will placing games onto HDD can utilize benefits of SSD or do I need to transfer a game (to be played) into the SSD and then play it and then if in future I want to play another one, I need to free-up my SSD and move the new game into it.

Thanks! :)

 

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I did finally build over the weekend, aside from a few early software issues everything seems to work. Sadly I had to do a complete wipe to get system stability. First time I've had to do that in years. It will take a while for the bubbles to work their way out of the loop, but even so, temperatures are already excellent.

I tossed a simple 100Mhz/400Mhz overclock on the GPU yesterday 2134Mhz/10,400Mhz result, ran Unreal Tournament (UE4) as a quick test and the GPU tops out at 47C, but I'm not sure that game can actually tax the GPU fully, at least on the maps I played. Still need to do CPU overclocking, but it runs at 4.5Ghz on demand. Ran a quick cinebench and got a decent score.

I'll be updating my signature with the complete build and pictures perhaps tonight, if the overclocking is successful. I also need a sacrificial SATA power connector to add the LEDs to the GPU, and I totally forgot to order my white cable kit. But here is the rough parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XNZgCy

As for your questions:

I've trusted ASUS for years so I foresee no issues with your proposed setup. I wanted more features than the Prime series offered, so went with my other regular of Gigabyte. Not too many reviews out for all the motherboards, but that is the price you pay for early adoption.

Programs installed to the SSD will load faster, but not perform any better typically. Keep your favorites on the SSD and leave everything else on the HDD. You can't typically move games around without re-installing, but if you installed everything to the SSD, then moved them, and moved them back when you wanted to play it would work. But you would spend more time doing the transfer than if you just ran the game from the HDD.
 

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Okay, Eximo. So I will install my OS and other mainly used programs in SSD and games in HDD as you said, they would not perform any better typically. I'm buying a 250GB SSD so the copy/paste thing is no good for long run.

Also, as you mentioned you wanted more features than the Prime series, can you point out any specific features worth considering. As the one I am considering (Z270E) is STRIX series board and is more costly then the prime series. Are there any features which Gigabyte gaming 5 offers and are not available in Asus Z270E series boards, I'm asking this this because I think you must have compared these while deciding the one for yourself.

Thanks for your time and all the info you shared. :)
 

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Added some water to my loop and ran it at 5Ghz for a while using the default settings provided by Gigabyte. Saw some scary high voltages, so I will work on that, but at least I know it can do it. Temperatures were fine and under a bench the voltage drooped a lot. So there will be some LLC to fiddle with. Makes it difficult to determine the proper voltage range.

In a limited way I compared them. Since the primary use for that system is gaming it doesn't take much. A more basic board would have worked, but I do like to build for reliability.

I wanted it to be black/white as I had several components going into it that were black with white LED accents. XSPC Razor block, black radiators, apogee XL CPU block, H-240X reservoir lights up white, some white blade fans, white tubing, and my yet to be ordered white cable kit and it would look pretty neat. (I didn't get around to uploading all the pictures and build log)

ASUS ROG/Strix boards have gone for a neutral gray, so they were out of the running. Also a lot of problems reported with the Hero VIII, so I was suspicious of the Hero IX, which I normally would have gone with.

ASUS Prime probably would have been adequate, but it has a few things I don't need like Thunderbolt. I took a look at the physical components arrayed around the CPU. Gigabyte Gaming 5 seemed to have decent components. The more expensive motherboards out there didn't seem like they offered anything in particular that I wanted.

Gaming 5 has the following high level features:
PCIe M.2 x2, U.2, Optane support, SLI support, RGB Lighting, PWM fan/pump headers, dual BIOS, dual ethernet, USB 3.1, slightly premium audio with replaceable op-amps.

ASUS Prime PCIe M.2 x2, U.2, Optane support, SLI support, RGB Lighting, PWM fan/pump headers, USB Front PaneL header (meaning that I would need a case with 3.1 rather than having a useable port)

Strix E was WiFi, which I don't need. Some of the other Strix boards would be okay, but they are a little too dark for my build. Haven't had any other motherboard brands in recent years aside from ASUS and Gigabyte. Long ago I had some issues with MSI, but that was back in the days of electrolytic capacitors everywhere. I've had a lot of ASUS boards and GPUs, the occasional Gigabyte GPU, and recently EVGA for their wonderful warranty policies (water cooling approved, just return it as you got it) (I was tempted to look at EVGA FTW boards, but decided against the extra expense.