Static pressure fans for NZXT H440 case?

edealuv

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I'm going to buy NZXT H440 (New Edition Silent Ultra) white case and it comes with 3x 120mm fans in front and 1x 140mm on the rear. The case is lovely but has somewhat restricted airflow in the front and on the top. I'm going to use Kraken X62 AIO cooler on top. Would replacing the front 120mm stock fans with NZXT's new Aer-P static fans do any notable difference?

Case: here
Aer P fans: here

Thank you in advance!
 
The included ones are typically fine for case airflow, but given you're getting an AIO i'd get some good static pressure ones for the rad, and silent ones for the case.
The Aer P fans are flashy, but not great performance.
I'll post again in a bit with a list.
 
The Cooler comes with it's own fans so what the case comes with has no bearing on the matter. Theres simply no gain to be had by replacing the extreme rpm fans that come with the Kraken with extreme speed fans from someone else. Those fans on the X62 are 2800 rpm .... Corsair's is 2700 and it sounds like Vacuum cleaner

However, the X62 costs $160 and it comes with all the problems associated w/ CLCs ... can't expand or maintain loop, weak pump, extreme rpm fans and noise associated therewith, cheap aluminum radiator (poor heat transfer).

For less money, you can get a complete custom water cooling kit using custom loop quality components ... all pre-assembled for you with none of those weaknesses. Before pulling the trigger, I'd suggest taking a look at Swiftech's offerings before deciding.

Hi SP fans was a thing back when radiators were 30 fpi (fins per inch) .... but with today's modern rads, there is simply no gain to be had ... unless of course the AIO manufacturer cheaps out and needs extreme speed, Hi SP fans to compensate for the low heat transfer capability of aluminum rads.

As for case fans, you actually want to go the other way. The best case fans on the market are Phanteks, but I don't think I'd swap out the NZXT fans .. there's again to be had; if yoiu add Phanteks fans to a Nocrua cooler for example, at same rpm, the Phantekls drop CPU temps by > 6C, pushing the Noctua fans faster to 1500 rpm, they still couldn't catch the Phanteks fans which did 3C better at 1200 rpm.... see test results charts here.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/phenteks_f140/3.htm
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1345-page7.html

The H440 is an excellent designed (aesthetically) case. If you have fan concerns, you might wanna take a look at some of the Phanteks fans and see if they appeal to you

Her Dimitri went fr
om an H440 to an Enthoo Luxe .. he explains the reasoning and difference between the cases in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdWXLAmmSjc

If you want more of a minimalist look, the Evolve won case of the year and also has no 5.25 bays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQfRDSGlNqI

But if aesthetics is an issue, some gave called the Tempered Glass version worthy of inclusion in an Art Gallery ... same case w/ a significant facelift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUkj23GgFE

I'd have a hard time making a case against any of the 4 cases mentioned (including the h440) but one thing that stands out is that ya get a set of much better fans on the Phanteks models. They have the best performance / noise ration on the market. My son's build had 11 in the Luxe (2 on air cooler), and the only thing you can hear from that rig is the PSU fan (EVGA G2 1000). He wound up swapping it out for the Swiftech Cooler. The Phanteks also comes with a built in Fan controller which allows you to provide PWM control of the 3 pin fans giving you all the advanatges of PWM w/ any of the disadvantages/

http://www.swiftech.com/h240x2.aspx

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As you can see here.... it beats the Similarly configured H100i hands downthermally and the h100i with 2700 rpm fans is 6 times as loud ... the kraken's is even faster rpm so should be even louder.

 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Case Fan: Fractal Design HP14-PWM 78.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($18.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Fractal Design HP14-PWM 78.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($18.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM 140mm Fan ($20.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM 140mm Fan ($20.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM 140mm Fan ($20.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $100.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-06 10:19 EST-0500
 

It also shows in the cost, and it isn't exactly a clean aesthetic in my opinion, the clear tubing gives it a very open look which some people don't like, also unless that fluid is RGB it's a choice between the aesthetic and performance market.
Imo at this high level of performance, the difference in temps is negligible considering your CPU isn't exactly getting anywhere near overheating either way.

 
1. I don't understand which cost are you referring to ?

The Swiftech outperforms ever way from Sunday and it's cheaper

2. Aesthetics... to my eyes it's not even close but if you don't like clear tubing... just do what my son did and change it. Unlike the Kraken, it's an open loop cooler

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unless that fluid is RGB it's a choice between the aesthetic and performance market

I don't understand that statement.... how does RGB fluid in any way impact performance ? Again, it's a OLC, you can choose any coolant you want. You can choose any tubing you want. How does any of this affect the performance ?

High level of performance ? ... let's remember these CLCs, even with the extreme speed fans can't beat a Noctua NH-D15 ... the Swiftech does.

The Noctua beats the H100i by 2C and the H100i has to be 12 times as loud to do it.
The H220-X beats the H100i by 7C and the H100i has to be 6 times as loud to0 do that.
The H240-X does even better topping it by 9C and the H1100i is still more than 5 tmes as loud.
The H240-X with its 2 fans even beats the CLCs w/ bigger radiators and 3 fans by 4C

I just don't see the case here...

- Why should one spend more money to get a cooler that performs worse by 9C ?.... if that's the argument, get a Hyper 212, cause the H100i beats the Hyper 212 by only 6C

- Why should one spend more money to get a cooler that is 5 - 6 times as loud ?

- Why should one spend more money to get a cooler with a weak pump, aluminum radiator, mixed metals in the loop which causes galvanic corrosion, no way to augment the corrosion inhibitors / algaecides after they lose their effectiveness, can not be expanded, no options to add some color and uses extreme speed fans.

- Why should one spend more money to get a cooler with no reservoir versus one that does ?

If you don't like the clear tubing, replace it ... 3 feet of tubing costs $7.50, it's still cheaper for so many gains. Just bdon't see the logog of paying more to get less ... much less.
 

edealuv

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Thank you for using so much time to help me out. I really like the case I've picked (h440) aesthetically. It's white as I want it to be, it has a window, looks clean & tidy and is not too big. NZXT s340 elite would have been nice and smaller too but the 280mm AIO radiator in front looks really weird to me and hence I like h440 more.

I also looked at the Enthoo Luxe you pointed out but it's just too big for me. The Evolv you also pointed out is not available in white, only in silver. Phanteks has this one case in white which I do like (ENTHOO EVOLV MATX) but it's matx case and looks really limited with room for cooling and the possible future SLI I'm planning. Any thoughts about that case?

For the cooling I think I'll stich with the Kraken x62. It got really good reviews and should be quieter & better performing than the Corsair equivalent. Can always change the fan profile and as many pointed out it does go to 100% too early. I also live in Europe and the cooling you suggested is not available in my country, I also prefer the looks of x62 over that one.

I think I'll wait and see how the cooling performs and then buy other fans if needed.

Also, here's my setup if you want to take a look: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDZnXH
 

edealuv

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Yeah I think I'll just wait and see how the included ones hold instead of getting replacements in advance. I understood that Kraken X62 comes with 2x 140mm NZXT's new static pressure fans. Thank you for help!