GTX 1070 with a freesync monitor

Ticho_ · Jan 6, 2017

so i bought the msi gtx 1070 in a sale.
amd or Nvidia doesn't matter that much to me.
i want a 144hz monitor but i'm not sure if my Nvidia card will work with a freesync monitor.
i was looking at a AOC G2460PF. 144Hz freesync monitor. Nvidia has his own Gsync. will
a Nvidia card word without stuttering or screentearing with a freesync monitor?

PC-4LIFE · Jan 6, 2017

Yeah, just use fast sync, something which is compatible with ALL monitors and is available with all pascal GPU's.

RCFProd · Jan 6, 2017

It will work like a monitor that doesn't support adaptive sync technology, so like a regular monitor.

dstarr3 · Jan 6, 2017

FreeSync does not work with nVidia cards. The only adaptive refresh tech that nVidia cards use is G-Sync.

king3pj · Jan 6, 2017

To be clear, the monitor will work fine. You just won't be able to use the FreeSync feature.

PC-4LIFE · Jan 6, 2017

dstarr3 :

Fast sync too, why does it seem like no ones heard of it?

dstarr3 · Jan 6, 2017

PC-4LIFE :

Because Fast Sync is a V-Sync alternative, not G-Sync alternative. G-Sync syncs monitor refresh rate with GPU FPS. All Fast Sync does is prevent partially-rendered frames from displaying, preventing tearing (with less lag than V-Sync).

PC-4LIFE · Jan 6, 2017

dstarr3 :

PC-4LIFE :

Because Fast Sync is a V-Sync alternative, not G-Sync alternative. G-Sync syncs monitor refresh rate with GPU FPS. All Fast Sync does is prevent partially-rendered frames from displaying, preventing tearing (with less lag than V-Sync).

Which is what OP was asking, whether there would be screen tearing or stuttering.

dstarr3 · Jan 6, 2017

Well, for that matter, any card will work with any monitor without tearing so long as V- or Fast-Sync are turned on. He's asking about combining a G-Sync card with a FreeSync monitor, which will prevent G-Sync from working.

Ticho_ · Jan 6, 2017

PC-4LIFE :

Awesome, so i can go ahead and order the AOC G2460PF and have no stuttering and screentearing. aslong i enable v-sync or fast sync ingame wich will give me a bit input lag. but i think i cal live with that since it'll save me over 200 dollar. Thanks all for you reply!

king3pj · Jan 6, 2017

PC-4LIFE :

Fast Sync is not adaptive refresh. That is why no one is talking about it. It's completely different than G-Sync and FreeSync.

That being said, Fast Sync might be a decent option for the OP since they won't be able to take advantage of an adaptive refresh technology on their FreeSync monitor with an Nvidia GPU.

dstarr3 · Jan 6, 2017

If all you're looking for is V-Sync to prevent tearing, you don't need to get any special monitor at all. Any GPU/monitor combination supports V-Sync. If you can save further money by getting a monitor that doesn't support either Free- or G-Sync, then do that, because those are different technologies that you're seemingly not interested in benefiting from.

PC-4LIFE · Jan 6, 2017

Ticho_ :

dstarr3 :

AOC G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor

How about that. Slightly cheaper, pretty much exactly the same but without free sync.

Ticho_ · Jan 6, 2017

PC-4LIFE :

Ticho_ :

dstarr3 :

AOC G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor

How about that. Slightly cheaper, pretty much exactly the same but without free sync.

i cant adjust the height on this monitor what is a must have for me. so to be clear. a 144HZ freesync monitor will work like a regular 144HZ monitor. using vsync will prevent my screen from tearing and stuttering. the AOC G2460pf is height adjusteble and its'll perform like a regular 144hz monitor when using a Nvidia card. using this monitor will be fine for competetive CS:GO, thanks for your replys guys!

PC-4LIFE · Jan 6, 2017

Ticho_ :

PC-4LIFE :

Ticho_ :

dstarr3 :

AOC G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor

How about that. Slightly cheaper, pretty much exactly the same but without free sync.

i cant adjust the height on this monitor what is a must have for me. so to be clear. a 144HZ freesync monitor will work like a regular 144HZ monitor. using vsync will prevent my screen from tearing and stuttering. the AOC G2460pf is height adjusteble and its'll perform like a regular 144hz monitor when using a Nvidia card. using this monitor will be fine for competetive CS:GO, thanks for your replys guys!

Yep, that's all right!

RCFProd · Jan 6, 2017

PC-4LIFE :

Not relevant to the topic.

PC-4LIFE · Jan 6, 2017

RCFProd :

PC-4LIFE :

Not relevant to the topic.

I don't see how it isn't... but suit yourself.

RCFProd · Jan 6, 2017

Well, by saying ''You can just use Fast Sync instead of Freesync'' you make it look like they're the same type of technology. They don't really compare.

Fast Sync eliminates any tearing/jittering past the monitor's refresh rate, useful for competitive games where more FPS = more responsive gameplay.

What does adaptive sync technology do? Keep the FPS in sync with the monitor's refresh rate for extra smoothness and prevention of tearing when FPS varies a lot. Let's say a Freesync monitor has a Freesync range of 30-144, it means that when you're playing a game and the game is producing 90 fps, the monitor's refresh rate will also be 90 Hz in that moment.

One is for past the monitor's refresh rate, one is for within. Apples, Oranges.

PC-4LIFE · Jan 6, 2017

RCFProd :

Well, by saying ''You can just use Fast Sync instead of Freesync'' you make it look like they're the same type of technology. They don't really compare.

Fast Sync eliminates any tearing/jittering past the monitor's refresh rate, useful for competitive games where more FPS = more responsive gameplay.

What does adaptive sync technology do? Keep the FPS in sync with the monitor's refresh rate for extra smoothness and prevention of tearing when FPS varies a lot. Let's say a Freesync monitor has a Freesync range of 30-144, it means that when you're playing a game and the game is producing 90 fps, the monitor's refresh rate will also be 90 Hz in that moment.

One is for past the monitor's refresh rate, one is for within. Apples, Oranges.

Ok.

king3pj · Jan 6, 2017

Ticho_ :

I actually disagree with the person saying this is correct. Vsync will eliminate tearing but it will not eliminate stuttering. That is exactly why G-Sync and FreeSync are popular.

Vsync locks your FPS to a multiple of your monitor's refresh rate. That means that if you aren't capable of holding 144 FPS the game will drop down to 72 FPS. On a normal 60 Hz monitor it will lock to 30 FPS.

The stutter happens when a game is right on the edge of those Vsync numbers. If a game is constantly switching between 144 and 72 FPS (or 60 and 30 FPS) on a standard monitor it will be very noticeable. G-Sync and FreeSync solve this problem by eliminating tearing by changing the monitor's refresh rate on the fly instead of trying to limit to the GPU to multiples of the refresh rate.

Edit: Since you are using the monitor for competitive CS:GO you probably won't have this stuttering problem since a 1070 will have no trouble maintaining a constant 144 FPS in that game. Most competitive players would not use Vsync though since it introduces input lag. FreeSync and G-Sync also wouldn't help anything at framerates above 144.

PC-4LIFE · Jan 6, 2017

king3pj :

Ticho_ :

I actually disagree with the person saying this is correct. Vsync will eliminate tearing but it will not eliminate stuttering. That is exactly why G-Sync and FreeSync are popular.

Vsync locks your FPS to a multiple of your monitor's refresh rate. That means that if you aren't capable of holding 144 FPS the game will drop down to 72 FPS. On a normal 60 Hz monitor it will lock to 30 FPS.

The stutter happens when a game is right on the edge of those Vsync numbers. If a game is constantly switching between 144 and 72 FPS (or 60 and 30 FPS) on a standard monitor it will be very noticeable. G-Sync and FreeSync solve this problem by eliminating tearing by changing the monitor's refresh rate on the fly instead of trying to limit to the GPU to multiples of the refresh rate.

Edit: Since you are using the monitor for competitive CS:GO you probably won't have this stuttering problem since a 1070 will have no trouble maintaining a constant 144 FPS in that game. Most competitive players would not use Vsync though since it introduces input lag. FreeSync and G-Sync also wouldn't help anything at framerates above 144.

I run CS:GO with no stuttering and screen tearing at 300fps with a 60Hz monitor...

king3pj · Jan 6, 2017

PC-4LIFE :

You also aren't using Vsync if you are running the game at 300 FPS on a 60 Hz monitor. My whole point was that Vsync causes stuttering. The stuttering comes from running Vsync in a game when you sometimes have 60 FPS and sometimes dip below that. The stuttering happens when you dip below that 60 FPS and the Vsync has to adjust to a lower multiple.

This is also why I edited my post to say he wouldn't see stuttering in CS:GO because he should have no trouble maintaining 144 FPS.

I would strongly suggest that the OP doesn't use Vsync while trying to play CS:GO. Tearing should already be less noticeable at higher framerates since each frame is on the screen for a shorter amount of time than if you were playing at a lower framerate. The extra input lag will put you at a pretty big disadvantage in a twitch shooter like that.

PC-4LIFE · Jan 6, 2017

king3pj :

PC-4LIFE :

You also aren't using Vsync if you are running the game at 300 FPS on a 60 Hz monitor. My whole point was that Vsync causes stuttering. The stuttering comes from running Vsync in a game when you sometimes have 60 FPS and sometimes dip below that. The stuttering happens when you dip below that 60 FPS and the Vsync has to adjust to a lower multiple.

This is also why I edited my post to say he wouldn't see stuttering in CS:GO because he should have no trouble maintaining 144 FPS.

I would strongly suggest that the OP doesn't use Vsync while trying to play CS:GO. Tearing should already be less noticeable at higher framerates since each frame is on the screen for a shorter amount of time than if you were playing at a lower framerate. The extra input lag will put you at a pretty big disadvantage in a twitch shooter like that.

I'm too tired to argue.

RCFProd · Jan 6, 2017

Fast Sync is the V-Sync method for higher than your monitor's refresh rate, so he could be using Fast Sync which is V-Sync.

PC-4LIFE · Jan 6, 2017

RCFProd :

Thank you.

+ less input lag

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