Is it possible to make a 8 x 8Tb nas unit?

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I have Asus motherboard z97k
Using this and a PCI card which has 2 sata ports ( total 8 sata ports)
Can I connect 8TB hdds to all of them and use this as a nas storage unit?
Any draw backs?
Would it be stable?
 
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So a hard drive will pull in like 10-30 watts or so under normal use, so even 8 of em would only draw 80-240 watts, that said when you boot the PC they all spinup and that can draw something around 30 watts or more and a lot of amps on your 12v rail. In addition you have a GPU and a fairly powerful processor. Thermaltake is generally low quality PSUs except for a couple models, I would not be surprised if the PSU simply couldn't handle it.

So even though in theory 750w should be plenty, when its a cheap 750... not so much.

Otherwise I would be suspicious of the quality of the PCI card.
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You do not need 7200rpm drives for NAS and backup purposes. You aren't playing games off the drives.

Yes they do all park and rest, but Enterprise drives are rated for more duty cycles because they tend to both get used more in an office environment, and are expected to last longer in that same environment.

if you get 5 years out of a consumer drive you got your moneys worth. Enterprise drives are expected to perform much longer.
 
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Why do you guys say mega overkill?
I just need it like a home media server
Local, not for web use
And it won't be running all day 24/7
I'd turn it on like an external bay when needed
It's just that I have so much stuff I'd like to keep it together and use half the capacity to backup the other half
 
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Enterprise drives are 10k RPM BEASTS and are noisy as hell, and fast. They are also extremely expensive. They are the exact opposite of what drive manufacturers market their NAS drives for, which is low power and silence (both of which are accomplished by using less than stellar parts, like 5400RPM platters)

 
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Because 64 terabytes of HD space is a lot.

Usually people don't come anywhere remotely close to that - that's why they say it's overkill.


Although if it was me, That'd be full of movies and tv shows and multipurpose as a seedbox on a private torrent site. :)
 
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Or, a couple of these.
Connected via USB 3.0 or eSATA
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003X26VV4
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4 drives each, up to 8TB per drive.
I have one, and am about to add another.
 
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Not all Enterprise drives are "10k RPM beasts" please save the hyperbole. All the major manufacturers make various Enterprise drives that run at 5400 and 7200 rpms.

They are made more durable for extra duty cycles and can handle the throughput needed. Not only that they don't even cost THAT much more than their consumer counterparts, but many times are offered in larger capacities.

I actually work for the company that makes the machines that manufacture these drives, so I do have a bit of insight into this subject. Again please cut the hyperbole when answering questions.
 
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The only thing you've said here that I agree with, and the point we were making with the overkill comment Lioric.

I mean if you have the parts lying around sure, but you don't need much processing power for a NAS.
 
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There is only one 5400 RPM "Enterprise" drive on Newegg, and it is an Intellipower and i'm not even convinced it is an enterprise drive, its just a WD RED.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006670&IsNodeId=1&Description=enterprise&name=Hard%20Drives&Order=BESTMATCH

And i guess its been a while since i've looked at "NAS" drives, they seem to have gotten away from it being pure slow low power drives, i'm thinking you mean like, WD Purple or something, which i wouldn't advise anyone to get.
 
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MERGED QUESTION
Question from Lioric Lionheart : "Can adding more hdds make a mobo unstable?"



 
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Seagate offers Enterprise and NAS drives in 5400 and 7200 rpm. They are actually basically the same drive other than the speed.

Either way hardly the "10k rpm beasts"
 
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I merged your question in here. What PSU do you have? They should not do that and I would think it may be something else causing the issue.
 
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So a hard drive will pull in like 10-30 watts or so under normal use, so even 8 of em would only draw 80-240 watts, that said when you boot the PC they all spinup and that can draw something around 30 watts or more and a lot of amps on your 12v rail. In addition you have a GPU and a fairly powerful processor. Thermaltake is generally low quality PSUs except for a couple models, I would not be surprised if the PSU simply couldn't handle it.

So even though in theory 750w should be plenty, when its a cheap 750... not so much.

Otherwise I would be suspicious of the quality of the PCI card.
 
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Thank you very much
I'd like to ask a final question
If I make a nas server I guess I'll use a thumb drive for a Linux os so is there a way for me to ask 4 drives to mirror the other 4 drives
And also is there a way to turn off particular drives because they are not in use. Like I might be watching a video on one drive so the others could shut down
 
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You can use the hardware to RAID mirror the drives in RAID 1, thats a matter of setup within the BIOS

As for turning the drives off when not in use, as mentioned they aren't spinning all the time, but I'm sure theres a way in Linux to have them enter power save. Unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with linux to tell you how or what, sorry.
 
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I wouldn't use a thumb drive for the 'always OS'.
Yes it works, but that thumber will die an early death.

In my box there is a small 120GB SSD for the OS and applications, and then ~20TB of spinning drives of various sizes.

Mirroring? That can get complex and expensive. The typical thought is RAID 1. But that pretty much requires identical size drives. No mix n match.
And that only helps in the case of a physical drive dying.
Accidental deletion, corruption, virus, etc, etc....that just happens on two drives at the same time. No protection from that.

Depending on what you are holding on those drives, there are probably other ways to do that.
 
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From what I have read about people using Raid is when a drive fails, there can be problems with getting the Raid array restored when a new drive is installed. How often will you be adding files to the main drives that you will want on the backup drives? Are there some files on the main drives that you don't need to back up (like a recorded TV show you will only watch once, then delete)?

You could get some backup software like Acronis True Image Home and have it do incremental backups on some scheduled interval (daily, weekly, monthly). Then you can consolidate the incrementals after x number of them. You can also exclude certain directories or file extension types from being backed up. Acronis has a function to validate the backup archive if you select this option.
 
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