More RAM or an SSD?

Jh4nTy

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Hello guys.

This is my current build, I have no SSD on it.

• CPU: Intel Core i5 4690k @ 3.5GHz
• GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 WindForce OC 6GB
• RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
• Motherboard: ASUS H81-Gamer
• OS: Windows 8.1 Pro
• HDD: 1TB

What should I get first? A new SSD (I've never had one) or a new set of RAMs (16GB DDR3 1600MHz).

Be advised that sometimes I stream online.

Thank you!

 
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[/quotemsg]SSD once you use one you will wonder why you never used one before now[/quotemsg]

I find it depends on whether or not "you are looking".... if you put one in and stare at the screen, it's a "wow" thing... if ya just "going about your business", then not so much. On it's own, doing scripted tasks the SSD is incredible ... but when user input is required between each of those tasks, the advantage is lost.

We had 5 users in a SOHO use a PC with (2) SSDs (2) SSHDs and a HD over a 6 week period. The box was capable of booting from any of the three alternatives which was set in the BIOS w/o their knowledge. They were told that I thot the PC was behaving erratically and to advise me if they noticed any issues. One user reported that boot time...
1. In what application do you feel you are getting unsatisfactory performance ? SSD won't do beans for gaming fps for example. SSDs do great benchmarks .... but sit folks down in front of a PC and they have great difficulty telling the difference between an SSD and SSHD. We use SSD + SSHD but if I had to pick between an SSD + HD or SSHD, the SSHD is the easy choice. You see the benefit from the latter in everything, the SSD, you see improvement for only what fits on it.

2. Is that 1 x 8GB or 2 x 4GB ?

3. I see you have an overclock capable CPU with a MoBo which won't let you OC it.

4. HD rpm Model ?

5. PSU ?
 

CorsairSSC

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Get BOTH. 16GB RAM + SSD
 

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SSD once you use one you will wonder why you never used one before now
 

Jh4nTy

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1. I can't complain about my gaming experience. However while streaming I have a hard time if I stream at 60fps because the streams will look laggy, even tho I'm playing smoothly for example, idk if I have OBS badly setted up since I've started recently.

2. 2x4GB

4. I believe its 7200rpm. Model is st1000dm003-1sb10c from Seagate.

5. Halfmman lc-8500btx 500W
 

Jh4nTy

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For now, I'm only getting one or another :p
 
[/quotemsg]SSD once you use one you will wonder why you never used one before now[/quotemsg]

I find it depends on whether or not "you are looking".... if you put one in and stare at the screen, it's a "wow" thing... if ya just "going about your business", then not so much. On it's own, doing scripted tasks the SSD is incredible ... but when user input is required between each of those tasks, the advantage is lost.

We had 5 users in a SOHO use a PC with (2) SSDs (2) SSHDs and a HD over a 6 week period. The box was capable of booting from any of the three alternatives which was set in the BIOS w/o their knowledge. They were told that I thot the PC was behaving erratically and to advise me if they noticed any issues. One user reported that boot time was slow on one occasion (off the HD) tho not on other occassions with the same boot.

Windows Boot:

HD = 21.2 seconds
SSHD = 16.5 seconds
SSD = 15.6 seconds

Load an 8MB AutoCAD file w/ detailed hatch patterns

HD = 39 seconds
SSHD = 39 seconds
SSD = 39 seconds

Load MMO to point where can move toon

HD = 46 seconds
SSHD = 46 seconds
SSD = 46 seconds

Repeated this test with two laptops that we used for engineers to do field work ... these were taken on road, and users would play games at night in their hotel rooms. One had SSD + HD, one had SSD ... no one ever noticed a difference ... well i did. It was back when 120 GB SSD was all that was basically affordable and I had to clean out the junk.

It's simply a matter of perspective. So yes if you are into benchmarks or like staring at the screen to see if you can pick up the difference, you might be able to notice difference for example in boot time between an SSD and SSHD but no secretary every typed more legal briefs, no CAD operator finished more drawings and no gamer has ever reached a further waypoint because they had an SSD instead of a SSHD.

However the concept of having a SSD to boot off and 95% of your gaming library on a HD escapes me completely. I'd say about 85% of the builds we do or are consulted on have an SSD + SSHD and 14% use an SSHD by itself.





 
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My 3 year old lappie streams just fine .... but all I am doing is watching movies. Are you gaming while streaming ... if so I have no experience here and have never investigated what hardware selections are important. Video editing ofc likes more threads, like more RAM, likes faster RAM and lower CAS RAM as well as fast storage subsystems and a "scratch" SSD is a benefit.