will i see a significant difference between these two processors?
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That CPU is not listed as compatible with your board. It may run, but if it isn't on the list I really wouldn't recommend it and it may be unstable with the 760G chipset https://www.msi.com/file/test_report/TR19_24433.pdf
Your 4300 CPU will only maybe slightly bottleneck a GTX 960 and you aren't likely to see much of an increase, so investing in an FX when they are becoming obsolete would be a bad move in this instance. I'd save your money towards a more sensible upgrade in future.
Your 4300 CPU will only maybe slightly bottleneck a GTX 960 and you aren't likely to see much of an increase, so investing in an FX when they are becoming obsolete would be a bad move in this instance. I'd save your money towards a more sensible upgrade in future.
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I understand. However i just need to upgrade something temporarily so that i can have a higher performance. At my current situation i have concluded that i need to get either an SSD or a better CPU to increase performance. Specifically for gaming.
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the 8370 is listed as compatable with your board go for that one instead of the 8350 its only 20 more bucks (USD)
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Ok, try this first then. Run a game or two that you know challenges your system, and check some usage stats by running HWInfo in the background, then take a screenshot of the results and post it here. That way, we can see what is the bottleneck and try to find a solution.
https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
EDIT the 'E' FX chips are enrgy efficient and as such not as powerful. I would guess that is why it is compatible and the regular 8370 isn't. I think you could possibly upgrade your chip, but choose carefully, and identify the bottleneck first.
https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
EDIT the 'E' FX chips are enrgy efficient and as such not as powerful. I would guess that is why it is compatible and the regular 8370 isn't. I think you could possibly upgrade your chip, but choose carefully, and identify the bottleneck first.
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https://gyazo.com/06b159aa8cde6341a3507fbe3c64e3db
thats the summary it gave me whilst it was running a challenging game.
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my bad.
https://gyazo.com/1028b12166780c4b9941e607812293f1
https://gyazo.com/a6372087d004816e510c278e7759924a
is that it?
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Yes perfect. It does show that your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU and may even be throttling because of temps so a more powerful chip on that board might not be a good idea unless you get a better cooler.
Your card is running at 84% max, which means you have a 15% increase available if you get a new CPU, and gameplay should be a bit smoother then too. It doesn't look like your HDD is bottlenecking (average 19.5%).
You could upgrade to an FX800 series chip on the supported list, but I'd definitely check the cooler is good enough if you do.
Your card is running at 84% max, which means you have a 15% increase available if you get a new CPU, and gameplay should be a bit smoother then too. It doesn't look like your HDD is bottlenecking (average 19.5%).
You could upgrade to an FX800 series chip on the supported list, but I'd definitely check the cooler is good enough if you do.
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I have water cooling so i'm surprised by the temp. However I think over all the research ive done recently, i can conclude the best option is to just buy a new motherboard as buying an 8 core will not improve gaming performance by much considering no games use over 4 cores. As far as i'm aware there are no significantly stronger quad core processors that amd produce right now therefore buying a new motherboard will allow me to go for intel processors. I wanted to avoid getting a whole new MB because its seems overkill when i only need a slight performance increase but it looks as if its the only option. Is this correct?
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To a certain extent, but also dont believe the hype about games only using two cores. Load is generally distributed across several cores. If you need proof of that, look at your four core loads. They are all 100%... Clockspeed and core count isn't everything with CPU's. There are other factors to consider like L1/2/3 cache performance and IPC's etc. An FX 8000 series CPU would give you an improvement believe me.
I would agree that you are only going to see a marginal increase, and investing in basically a dead end platform is a bad idea as I said, but you said you wanted an improvement NOW! I would 100% recommend upgrading to a newer Intel board and CPU if you can though. Thats the sensible move.
I would agree that you are only going to see a marginal increase, and investing in basically a dead end platform is a bad idea as I said, but you said you wanted an improvement NOW! I would 100% recommend upgrading to a newer Intel board and CPU if you can though. Thats the sensible move.
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I've learnt more about cpu's in this one day than i have in 10 years holy damn. Anyway buying a whole new MB is a bit daunting considering the dimensions may not fit my case properly and the fact im not experienced in replacing anything in pc's. Taking that into account, the best option would be to upgrade my cpu and although i now understand games dont only use two cores, i believe buying a strong quad core cpu is my best option (over an 8 core) which is why im comparing different amd quads now. Do you think buying a strong quad amd is a good option for short term?
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If you can afford to spend money on a new CPU knowing that the 15% GPU increase is about the max you'll get with that CPU/board combo then yes.
Motherboards are all standard sizes though. The one you have now is Micro-ATX, or mATX. Any mATX board will fit your case and it's not THAT complicated considering the plus side! Obviously your call. Hopefully you can use all the info to make a good decision now
Motherboards are all standard sizes though. The one you have now is Micro-ATX, or mATX. Any mATX board will fit your case and it's not THAT complicated considering the plus side! Obviously your call. Hopefully you can use all the info to make a good decision now
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If you can afford to spend money on a new CPU knowing that the 15% GPU increase is about the max you'll get with that CPU/board combo then yes.
Motherboards are all standard sizes though. The one you have now is Micro-ATX, or mATX. Any mATX board will fit your case and it's not THAT complicated considering the plus side! Obviously your call. Hopefully you can use all the info to make a good decision now
Motherboards are all standard sizes though. The one you have now is Micro-ATX, or mATX. Any mATX board will fit your case and it's not THAT complicated considering the plus side! Obviously your call. Hopefully you can use all the info to make a good decision now
Well i'm a lot more confident now with what you've said and the research i've done. Although i have one last question. If i wanted to buy a new MB+CPU, it would be hard to fit into my budget meaning i'd have to buy a cheap board (around 50 pounds) if i were to get an intel CPU and that would be a bad choice correct?
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No would be fine if it was a MicroATX. The h110 boards are good for any non-K chips on Skylake. If you mean older Intel boards then it'd depend which one, but no point getting those anyway if you're buying new not 2nd hand.
And am happy to give my opinion on any questions you have, its cool.
And am happy to give my opinion on any questions you have, its cool.
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If i were to go with the whole new MB+CPU id be looking at being able to get an Intel Asus H110M-K + Intel i5 6400
if i were to go with a stronger amd quad core its AMD A8-Series APU A8-7670K.
second option is cheaper but what would you say is best overall? (GPU is gtx 960 encase i didnt say)
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The first build is a lot better and will fit your case. That CPU could run up to a GTX 1060 6gb or even 1070. The CPU could also be upgraded to a Skylake/Kaby Lake i7 in future.
The A8 7680k could run maybe a GTX 970 and you're paying more for the APU graphics. Not to mention it isn't on the supported CPU list for your board.
The A8 7680k could run maybe a GTX 970 and you're paying more for the APU graphics. Not to mention it isn't on the supported CPU list for your board.
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