Pentium 4 3.2GHz @ 3.68 GHz

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Well I have a 2003 gaming PC, and I decided to see what it can do. It can run Minecraft, but there is block lag, and I found the cause to be the CPU at 100%, I looked online for better CPUs, the only better one is the Pentium 4 3.4GHz, which isn't much better, so I decided to overclock the 3.2GHz to 3.4 and... Still lag. I overclocked it in increments until windows froze under a stress test, put the speed back to the last good increment and a 3.68 GHz CPU. It works perfectly fine and the lag is mostly gone, but I would like a faster one.

Would the 3.4GHz overclocked be much better than the 3.2 Overclocked?
 
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Nothing you do will help much. There's simply not enough processing power you can add.

The MOST you can increase the FPS is the ratio of overclock. 34/32 means 6% maximum improvement

You may even have video or system memory issues as well.
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’01 P4 2.4 Ghz 512 / 400 SL6GS 24x Northwood
’03 Cel 2.66 Ghz 256 / 533 SL7C6 20x Prescott
’01 P4 2.4 Ghz 512 / 533 SL6D7 Northwood
’02 Cel 2.4 Ghz 128 / 400 SL6VU 24x Northwood
’03 P4 2.8 Ghz 1Mb / 533 SL7E2 21x Prescott
P4 2.8 Ghz 512 / 400 14x Northwood (old vista)
P4 3.0 Ghz 512 / 800 SL6WK 15x Northwood (HT)
 
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The Motherboard is really old but I don't really wanna get a new one so i have to use socket 478's

 
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Thats a lot of old CPUs

 
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Nothing you do will help much. There's simply not enough processing power you can add.

The MOST you can increase the FPS is the ratio of overclock. 34/32 means 6% maximum improvement

You may even have video or system memory issues as well.
 
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people give me their old stuff.. i usually just gut it all... currently i have 2 main desktops i use, 2 others i experiment with so i dont mess up my mains.. 2 laptops, 1 windows tablet, 1 android tablet, and then i have a pentium 4 system i put together just for shits n giggles.. built it, checked it for working order, and havent turned it on since.. has 4 ram slots (1gb each), a PCI edition Zotac 610GT 1GB, and an Asus PCI sound card. have vista running on that turd lol. I did test some emulators on it and it worked reasonably well for the early gen stuff.. did notice some micro stutter playing bluray mkv files in VLC with it though
 
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Monkeypie8

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That PCI Zotac 610, Very Rare and worth quite a bit
 
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I can increase FPS by getting a new Video Card
I guess i'll stick with the 3.2GHz since it's OK

Thanks.
 
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No you can't.
You've already said the CPU is running 100% so a faster GPU is pointless. The GPU takes draw calls etc from the CPU but if the CPU is already maxed out it will just sit there waiting.
 
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Only paid $59.99 at NewEgg lol
 
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I suggest you to buy a second-hand Intel Pentium 4 3.4 Ghz SL7PP or SL8K4, which can be easily overclocked up to 3.9/4.0 Ghz on a good motherboard without overvolting.
I have one of these CPU (Pentium 4 3.4 SL7PP) on Asus P4P800-E Deluxe motherboard, running smoothly at 4.0 Ghz (FSB 236) with Intel stock cooler.
 
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It's extremely difficult to justify an APU for gaming of any sort.

You:
a) LOSE some of the memory (it's assigned to the GPU in the APU from the BIOS)
b) you require FASTER, more expensive memory

Add that to the difference between the CPU and APU (with similar CPU part) and you're most of the way to a far better GPU.

I don't think the better APU's are much better than an R7-250. On top of all that, for weaker CPU's I recommend an NVidia GPU anyway since the AMD driver hit eats up more cycles typically for DX11.

Hard to give advice beyond that though. If you had a specific BUDGET you can play around with PCPARTPICKER.

It's possible we may see a RYZEN APU in 2017 that actually makes sense but again it's hard to find an APU that's good enough it can plays games but cheap enough (for the entire system) that the value is there.

For budget, USED can be the way to go as well. If you can find a modern i3 with hyperthreading such as i3-4xxx or i5-2500K or newer for cheap.
 
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