Im building a Custom PC - need help

michelve

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I am going to be building my first pc ever next month, and I have a few questions, i have the following hardware in mind, what do you guys i think? should i keep this config or improve it? am i missing something, ? Incompatibility ? im very anxious about this project :bounce:

GIGABYTE Z170X-GAMING G1 motherboard
$348

Creative Sound Blaster ZxR PCIe 124dB SNR Sound Card with Desktop Audio Control Model 70SB151000000
$284


Intel Boxed Core I7-6700K 4.00 GHz 8M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151 BX80662I76700K with Corsair Hydro Series H115i Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler Cooling
$453


Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080
$580.66


G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Memory Kit Model F4-2666C16Q2-64GRB
$395


EVGA SuperNova P2
$322


Samsung 960 EVO NVMe (1TB) x 2
$960


Blu-ray Burner - LG BH16NS40
$99

Corsair Obsidian 900D
$333.91


misc:
$320



thanks.
 
Those prices are ridiculous ... would appear that parts were selected by choosing most expensive part in every category rather than an actual build someone was considering biulding.

The sound card has no place in a gaming build... save that for professional audio editing

The MoBo isn't doing anything that the Gaming 7 won't do for $175

Your RAM choice is dd considering that you can't fit 8 sticks in a board with just 4 slots and that few $5000 applications might benefit from having this RAM

The chosen cooler can not compete with $80 air coolers

The case is way over large for what's in it
 

michelve

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thx nice site, reading ...
 
$4-6K is used car territory, not buy a PC.

this is pretty ultimate for $1812:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($82.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($112.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($580.66 @ B&H)
Case: Rosewill Challenger S ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX24AH 24.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($226.45 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Devastator II Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1812.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-10 15:17 EST-0500

its a kabylake i7-7700K with overclocking board, 16 GB ram, large SSD and 2 TB HDD, GTX 1080, an IPS Panel 1440p monitor w/ speakers, windows, keyboard and mouse
 

michelve

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awesome let me check this out
 
PCPP is rather limited in that it can't seem to find many products. NOTES:

1. I'd do a Z270 based bag but essentially all we have right now are the "beta" versions of products in that over the years we have seen 1st steppings of CPUs and MoBos being somewhat shadows of later versions.... CPUs will improve their average max OC over time and with MoBos we never quite know... With P68 there was a complete recall where all boards purchased in early months after release had to be replaced with B3 stepping boards. Most times it's just a few features that are borked and these are fixed in later steppings.

Also... at this point we don't know the winners versus the losers with the new MoBo releases. Some will hit the home run, some will go down swinging ... Best wait 3 months or so if ya want Z270 so ya can read web site reviews and newegg user reviews, thereby avoiding the ones with 40% of board owners screaming "this board is terrible".

Finally, do you really want to update the BIOS 4-5 times and redo all your OC settings after each one ?

If ya want Z270, wait 3 months to see what's what and get the "new and improved" versions that will be available at that time

2. Substitute the Swiftech for the cooler instead of the old PCPP one listed.

3. Substitute the CLC type Seahawk GFX card for the one with the real EK Block... also choose the 1080 Ti which is about to drop.

4. The Swiftwch cooler is powerful enough to add a GFX card water block ... or two. You can add a 2nd radiator to the build if you wanna go SLI.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Get 7700k if holding off till after tax refund arrives in mid April

CPU Cooler: Swiftech H240-X 90.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.95)
Ya want the Swiftech H240 X2 which PCPP can't seem to find but the price I entered manually so it adds up
http://www.swiftech.com/h240x2.aspx

Motherboard: MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($261.02 @ Amazon)
Great board w/ auto overclocking features that actually work very well. Again, use Z270 version if it mages t hold up to its older brother

Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($134.97 @ Jet)
Same price as 2400 and at a reasonable quantity

Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ B&H)
Plenty for storage of OS and applications

Storage: Seagate FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX US) In a blind test, I challenge any one to notice the difference.
https://www.youtube.com/v/YodPHMBlr8M

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($769.99)
Find real one here but I'd wait for 1080 Ti version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127952
Again, to install just buy 2 fittings ($10) and some extra tubing and coolant ($12) and your GPU and CPU are now water cooled. Add a 2nd radiator if ya want custom loop like temps

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($187.98 @ Newegg)

The 900 is way to big for today's more efficient video cards and even then, the 900 would be for a custom water loop only... and since the 900 came out, there are far better options available. The Evolv case is 'art gallery" worth and it's feature and performance gave it the "Case of the Year" award last year.

Power Supply: SeaSonic 1050W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($176.81 @ Jet)
This bigger than necessary but sized to:

a) handle 2nd card in SLI ... two of those would be expected to pull 300 watts each.
b) keep the load well away from rated load so as to keep fan usage low and stay away from the point where performance starts to diminish
c) the fan on the Snow models is extremely quiet ... use the 750 watter if you will never SLI
d) It's real perty amd w/ the full glass window, you will like seeing it.

Monitor: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor ($799.99 @ B&H)
You had a crazy budget so I thru this in ... currently best monitor available.

I skipped the DVD thing as most will never use, but if ya do need it, I'd get an external ...or switch to the Enthoo Luxe case

Total: $3039.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-10 15:21 EST-0500

 

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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kFcgCy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kFcgCy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Extreme Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($654.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Extreme Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($654.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2445.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-10 21:12 EST-0500

Kinda went just a tad bit overkill...
 

michelve

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Corsair)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($7.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($209.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($421.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($425.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($649.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($187.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 1600W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($334.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Full 32/64-bit ($139.99 @ My Choice Software)
Sound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($220.00 @ Amazon)
Wired Network Adapter: TP-Link TG-3468 PCI-Express x1 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Adapter ($11.81 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC68 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($92.90 @ Jet)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($17.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $3169.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-10 23:25 EST-0500



Took some suggestions and this is the build I came up with thx so much for the suggestions and feedback
 

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Here's a tip from me: If you have a lot of money to spend don't just waste it all in one spot. Save for later. PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fF9Rqk
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fF9Rqk/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($445.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($649.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($187.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Full 32/64-bit ($139.99 @ My Choice Software)
Wired Network Adapter: TP-Link TG-3468 PCI-Express x1 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Adapter ($11.81 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($17.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $2198.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-11 10:03 EST-0500

 


Still some issues.

1. The cooler gives you no advantage whatsoever, and is crushed by even competing air coolers at a much lower price. If you are going to go water, get something with a capable pump and which doesn't have a cheap aluminum radiator such as the Swiftech or EK Predator... you spent so much money on items that provide no benefit (RAM / PSU for example), that going cheap on this item is a big hit on the overall quality and performance of the assembled build. An H240-X will get you 10C lower CPU temps. Here we see it crushing Corsair's flagship H100i by 9C... see 23:00 mark in video) and the H100i needs to be 5 times as loud to get that close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYKdKVxbnp8

2. Artic Silver is:

a) More costly than better alternatives.

b) Takes 200 hours to cure ... so don't start dialing in your OCs for 7 or 8 weeksa of usage

c) From their own web site...
Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.

Shin Etsu has the same Thermal Performance, gives you them from day 1 (no curing issues) and no fears of damaging your components if you get a drip on something

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mDPfrH/masscool-thermal-paste-g751

3. You'd want the Z270 version of the MoBo .. and have you looked at the user reviews from board owners on newegg ? Compare them with say the Gigabyte Gaming 7

4. Your Video Card may be defective. Since late November EVGA has been shipping cards where the defect was corrected but many remain in the sales channel

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-1070-evga-cards-dying/


5. 1600 watts is not doing anything for you... at 20% of the price, this Seasonic G Series SSR is a better and better rated PSU for your build

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=348

Even if you had plans for SLI (surprised not selected given the RAM and PSU oversizing) youd have trouble eating 850 watts. But again, by time you finish building the PC, 1080 Ti release may be announced (im guessing w/i 20-30 days


6. The NIC is of lesser quality than the one built into any MoBo in this price range

7. Wireless on a desktop... not recommended, significant loss of speed compared to wired. The Z270 Asius Maximus Formula has it built in ... as do others... tho using one will usally mean disabling the other.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=z270&ignorear=0&N=100007627%20600540658&isNodeId=1

8. Replacing the Noctua fans ona Noctual cooler decreases CPU temps by > 6C at the same rpm... even running 300 rpm faster, the Noc fans can't catch the Phanteks equipped cooler falling 3C short. The Phanteks case comes with the best fans on the market ...and if adding, you'd want 140mm not 120mm

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/phenteks_f140/3.htm
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1345-page7.html

The Phanteks case also comes with a fan controller that is designed to take a PWM signal and provide PWM control of up to eleven 3 pin DCV fans, your selection is 4 pin PWM


9/. I doubt that you are running anything that could utilize 1/4th of the RAM you are buying and by using 4 sticks, you are likely decreasing the amount of OC you can achieve.
 
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