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Cooler Master Seidon 240p vs. Masterliquid pro 240
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I would argue to use any AIO cooler - most of them are of 1 or 2 actual designs, other than that, there is hardly any difference between them. They use very weak, low flow pumps and usually utilize aluminum radiators.
The only real reason they are popular is so that any user can tell his/her friend that they have 'liquid cooling' since their performance also is on-par with good air coolers.
The only real reason they are popular is so that any user can tell his/her friend that they have 'liquid cooling' since their performance also is on-par with good air coolers.
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Actually there are more advantages to AiO liquid coolers over air coolers of same TDP. Most new cases have space reserved for them so radiators are out of the way, makes for cleaner installation. Air coolers of same TDP tend to be very large and take a large chunk of space often restricting access to high RAM sticks.
Aluminum is not far from copper as far as heat transfer is concerned and copper is not really needed, pumps are just right size for small loops otherwise they wouldn't work.
Aluminum is not far from copper as far as heat transfer is concerned and copper is not really needed, pumps are just right size for small loops otherwise they wouldn't work.
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The flow from those pumps is abysmal - it is less than 0.9 liter per minute. While this is also usually 'adequate' to provide 'adequate' cooling for these coolers, it isn't really ideal or optimal, but I suppose it is 'good enough' to say you own a liquid cooler. Given that CPU TDPs have dropped quite a bit over the last couple years, this does help. Even the very lowest end DDC used in the EK Predator and Swiftech H220/240's runs at just under 0.4 gallon per minute, by comparison...a 6 watt product.
Copper is just less than 2x more thermally conductive than aluminum, so I'd say that is a decent margin, even though that doubling isn't a large value of watt-meters per degree kelvin. However, it is still a value of consideration and is why good watercooling radiators are brass and copper in design.
AIO's aren't going away, I understand this. I just want the education to exist so that users do not expect full loop cooling out of a boxed AIO. A car is a car, but there is also much difference between a Kia Spectra and a Mercedes G class.
Copper is just less than 2x more thermally conductive than aluminum, so I'd say that is a decent margin, even though that doubling isn't a large value of watt-meters per degree kelvin. However, it is still a value of consideration and is why good watercooling radiators are brass and copper in design.
AIO's aren't going away, I understand this. I just want the education to exist so that users do not expect full loop cooling out of a boxed AIO. A car is a car, but there is also much difference between a Kia Spectra and a Mercedes G class.
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When I switched from very large Mugen3 air cooler to Nepton 140 XL I was able to get 300 MHz more out of my FX 6350 and gained a lot of space inside the case plus about 10c lover temperature.
So AiO liquid coolers are not for bragging rights only.
So AiO liquid coolers are not for bragging rights only.
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