Should I get a new PSU after my recent upgrade?

DJFr0st

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So I got a new GTX 1070 and I love but I feel like I'm being held back a little. At first I thought it was my CPU but that's not the problem, but it might be my PSU. I've had this computer since Christmas of 2014 and it came prebuilt. So I feel like I need a new one after having some of these upgrades, and I use a lot of USBs, so much so I needed a big USB hub. I also have a PCIe 6pin to PCIe 8pin adapter, which I don't think is helping.

Specs:
Here's a picture, I can't tell exactly what it is. http://i.imgur.com/RN38Z0v.jpg
GTX 1070 (with 6pin to 8pin adapter)
Intel Core i7-4770K with a somewhat beefy cooler.
16GB of RAM (2 8GB sticks running at 1600MHz)

USB Hardware:
7 port 3.0 USB hub with a charger and webcam connected
SteelSeries Rival Mouse
Corsair K70 Keyboard
Samson Meteor Mic
HTC Vive (which is what I got my 1070 for)
Bluetooth Dongle
Wireless Headset Dongle
 


I think you've said this before, but there is NOT a problem with running adapters provided the power supply has sufficient power.

I don't recognize his power supply, but it certainly has sufficient power for his needs and getting a new one will change nothing.

His system only needs roughly 325 Watts max, or about 50% load.

*If he's being "held back" it's likely something else. (I'd probably still get a different power supply for the sake of knowing I have a quality unit but it's about reliability not power).
 

DJFr0st

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Thanks for your responses, but I feel like I need a new PSU, because the PCIe cord coming out of my current PSU is 6 pin, so I have an adapter that came with my last MSI GTX 960. By the way, should I get the PSU Blackbird told me to get? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm or this other one that I found for a similar price by Corsair that I could go get right now from a store in town? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-cx-series-modular-cx750m-750w-atx-power-supply-black/8324202.p?skuId=8324202 (sorry about the large link)
 

DJFr0st

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MERGED QUESTION
Question from DJFr0st : "What SPU should I get?"

This should be the last question I'll need to ask for a while. So I'm getting a new SPU soon, but I don't know what I should get. I have a GTX 1070, which it doesn't exactly work with because my SPU has a 6 pin PCIe and my 1070 needs an 8 pin, so right now I use an adapter. The one I have right now is a crappy one Lenovo puts in prebuilt PCs. Please don't tell me that I don't need a new SPU, I want something that I know is good that will last.

So here are some options that I found for about $70 that will be great for me. An admin, Blackbird, in another post told me to get this SeaSoft PSU, https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm
Here is another one from Corsair I could go buy right now at BestBuy and it looks like it has better specs, and it's on sale so it's the same price as the SeaSoft one, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-cx-series-modular-cx750m-750w-atx-power-supply-black/8324202.p?skuId=8324202

If there is something I don't see about the SeaSoft SPU, tell me. I feel like the Corsair CX750M is a way better option right now.
 


1) I personally like one of the ECO models from EVGA such as the G2 because it can turn off the fan, and is also modular which avoids cable clutter.

You can lookup reviews as well. The differences between many of them are minor but some are louder than they need to be. I bought my dad a Be Quiet! model which is dead silent and has good reviews.

2) Just FYI, but the adapter is using the SAME EXACT POWER from the power supply whether it's through the PCIe cable or through the MOLEX adapter cable.

The purpose of different cables in part is to prevent people drawing too much power but the mains power is still delivered by the 12Volt rails (about 80W of the GPU power goes through the main 24-pin cable to the board then to the card, and the remaining 100W or whatever comes through the adapter cable or true 6-pin if you had a normal PSU).

(We could dissect the PSU further as to how separate the rails truly are but it's not necessary based on the power draw)

So if you're concerned about power supply failure or it's a noise issue by all means buy another one but if your performance is lacking again it's probably a DIFFERENT ISSUE. You should be running BENCHMARKS and comparing to similar builds or looking at the GPU load in specific situations.

*If the GPU frequency is high, AND the GPU load is also high (such as 1900MHz, 95% load) then you obviously aren't power starved and the GPU is running flat out.

(Just FYI the Unigine Valley and probably Heaven benchmarks don't show GPU frequency correctly. Don't use the program. Use the tool from your GPU company like EVGA Precision X for EVGA cards)

*And keep that power supply just in case you need to troubleshoot. Even brand new, high quality PSU's can still fail.

3) PCPARTPICKER. http://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/
You can FILTER by "modular", price, wattage etc. (note that 80-plus ratings of GOLD etc are an efficiency rating and do not necessarily denote quality. A BRONZE can be better quality than GOLD. Probably not but it can be.

a) $90 - THIS one can disable the fan (ECO MODE) at 50% load which is why 650W makes sense for you if interested in that

there are cheaper PSU's that will work fine. depends what you want. A good PSU is an investment and can last 10 years.
 
Why EXACTLY do you not think your GTX1070 isn't performing properly or is bottlenecked somehow?

*And after rereading your post, that PSU sounds like it's reasonably new. Shouldn't be any problems. Lenovo would be rebadging one of the other units likely and it's probably fine but suit yourself.
 

DJFr0st

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I don't know if it's my GPU or something else like my CPU, but I'm getting stutters that I didn't use to have, usually in CSGO. I've run 2 virus scans recently, cleaned my PC of dust, so I thought it would be because of my PSU because of things I've read saying I should get a new PSU if I have to use an adapter for my PCIe. That last thing I can think of is my motherboard, which my PC literally recognizes as Base Board by Lenovo, no model number. https://gyazo.com/8b3431aad29920fba4f41f99f29417e3

I'm still going to get a new PSU at some point, I feel like I need one, and $70 is fine for me to spend.

(also I just got the Night Owl badge at 6:59? Time zones are fun.)
 

DJFr0st

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Alright, I know what PSU I'm getting, it's not the one at Newegg, it's an EVGA 850w. Probably the first one you'll find if you go on BestBuy and search for an 850w. So I have that solved, I just want to know now if I need a new motherboard if that changes anything. Mine seems overly generic, generic name, no model number, the only thing it says is Lenovo.
 


Not your CPU.
Probably not your GPU (at least likely not a power issue).

Have you tried forcing FAST SYNC for CSGO?

NCP-> manage 3D settings-> add game-> FAST SYNC-> save

(Your output must be at least 2x the refresh. For example, if 144Hz you need over 288FPS... basically the GPU draws frames as quickly as possible and the LAST complete frames before the new refresh is the one used. So all other frames are dropped but it reduces LATENCY but at the same time eliminates screen tear.

Sometimes high refresh rates don't produce much obvious screen tear. Sometimes however it can cause tear and even cause STUTTER issues though there are several things that can produce stuttering. Usually it's a software issue.)