Moving windows 10 from HDD to SSD (After Cloning)

Maxson93

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About a year ago I built my PC, unfortunately my budget wasn't big enough to include an SSD, so I figured I'd live without it for a little while.
I now bought a Samsung EVO 850 (500gb) and installed it into my rig. I used the samsung cloning software and cloned my Local Disk (C) with windows on it onto the newly installed SSD.
Now... my issue is that even though I have windows on the SSD, it's also on the HDD Local disk (C) and it has the windows logo on it, which I take it means that my PC boots windows via my old HDD. I changed the boot order to my SSD in bios and thought that the windows boot will go over to my SSD and I could just format my old drive. But Nope.
My old drive still is the primary drive and runs windows through it.
My only question is - Can I somehow solve this issue without re-installing windows? Because that is just not an option for me.
 
Solution
We'll assume your HDD boots & functions just fine when it's installed as the sole drive in your system.

So do this...

Repeat the disk-cloning operation using your Samsung Data Migration program. After the d-c operation has apparently completed successfully, close down the PC and disconnect or uninstall the HDD from the system.

It's best, if feasible, if you connect the newly-cloned SSD to the first SATA port (connector) on your motherboard - usually designated SATA 0 or SATA 1, but it's not critical.

What *is* critical is that now you will boot to the newly-cloned SSD as the SOLE drive connected in the system - no other drives should be connected at this time. Assuming that the SSD boots without incident and functions just fine...

HaroldOlivr

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Man... Mine was worse. I successfully installed Win10 on my brand new 960Evo and stupidly deleted the EFI and Recovery Partition that the Win10-SSD wrote in it. rip on my 960evo -- neither the BIOS or disk management can detect it. $150 waste of effing money because I'm too stupid.
 
We'll assume your HDD boots & functions just fine when it's installed as the sole drive in your system.

So do this...

Repeat the disk-cloning operation using your Samsung Data Migration program. After the d-c operation has apparently completed successfully, close down the PC and disconnect or uninstall the HDD from the system.

It's best, if feasible, if you connect the newly-cloned SSD to the first SATA port (connector) on your motherboard - usually designated SATA 0 or SATA 1, but it's not critical.

What *is* critical is that now you will boot to the newly-cloned SSD as the SOLE drive connected in the system - no other drives should be connected at this time. Assuming that the SSD boots without incident and functions just fine, work with it for a few days before making any data changes (if desired) on your HDD which will now be a secondary drive in your system.
 
Solution


Harold:
Couldn't you just reinstall the OS?
 

USAFRet

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Redo the clone thing, thusly:
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Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung SSD)
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up
Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive
Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe as necessary.
Delete the original boot partitions, here:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/4f1b84ac-b193-40e3-943a-f45d52e23685/cant-delete-extra-healthy-recovery-partitions-and-healthy-efi-system-partition?forum=w8itproinstall
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HaroldOlivr

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I wanted to, but the 960Evo is nowhere to be found. Not in BIOS, win10 boot installation, disk management, or diskpart. I'm resending it back for a replacement, but would be happy to stick around if you have any good idea on making the 960Evo going back online again.

Note that there's an OS inside it, but it's EFI and Recovery partition was located in the 1TB HDD and deleted. Anything I can do? I can't wait for another week or two tbh. Someone help.
 


Have you tested the health of the Samsung SSD with Samsung's Magician program?
 

HaroldOlivr

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No. And the 960Evo won't show up anywhere at all anyway. BIOS, diskmgmt, device manager, win10 install -- Like it's legit dead... But I know it's not since when I have it plugged it side by side with the HDD, it's in a continuous win 10 splash loop or just the RoG splash. And that's all.

I take it out, and windows will perfectly load with the HDD.. *note: there's no other drives besides that two.
 

USAFRet

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With it connected, and Windows will not start properly...
and with it disconnected the system works as expected...

That points directly towards a defective drive.
 

HaroldOlivr

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I guess I'm sending it back to NewEgg then.

Can you give me some good advice on the best way to clone/migrate my current HDD's OS, EFI, MSR, and Recovery to the 960Evo replacement I'm about to get? Thank you, USAFRet.
 

USAFRet

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Exact procedure listed above.
Adjust as needed for specific connection details.

But...after the clone thing, the first thing you must do is power off, and disconnect the original drive.
Let the system attempt to boot from the new drive.
 

HaroldOlivr

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F*ck. One of the screws in my HDD is stripped and stuck. Is there a way to internally disable it? Like a diskpart command maybe? If not, I'd find a way to get that damn screw out.
 

USAFRet

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Just disconnect the SATA data and power cable.
No need to physically take the drive out.
 

USAFRet

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Well then...before you power up with the system on the new drive, you really, really need to take the old one out.
diskpart doesn't count, because that means the original drive is still in, and the system may be running from it.

Time to get creative with getting that screw out.
 

HaroldOlivr

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All right, I guess, I'll figure out how to get that darn screw out, take out the HDD, and just reinstall everything on the SSD and wipe the entire HDD with my desktop PC.

What format should I turn the HDD into? NTFS? or Dynamic NTFS?
 

USAFRet

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Not dynamic.