New Dell System on sale - what do you think?

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Not a real big fan of pre-built computers, they often have glitzy specs (i7 with 16GB RAM and a 1060 video card) but the quality of the parts used are typically low. For $1,700 you could build a fantastic system with quality parts.

If you are not comfortable with assembly you could purchase from a local vendor and have them assemble or order from NCIX.com, they have an assembly service as well. If you wish for advice on a build, I can provide or any of a number of posters on this website. Let us know.
 

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For $1.700? no way. Build it on your own using the same components and you will save a few hundreds of $$ or you will get a overall better performing system for the same price with the most-recent high-end quality parts. This alienware dekstop took a step back from the highest-performance rig with this one and for the price you could get something better!
 
If you were to build it yourself, you could get an unlocked CPU, low CAS DDR4 RAM, a high quality EVGA GTX 1070 SC, an excellent power supply for about the same price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($116.29 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($244.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($157.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($389.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.33 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1691.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-17 10:42 EST-0500
 

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This sounds really interesting. I'd rather it be built for me at this time, so NCIX.com seems interesting, if they're reasonably priced.

What I'm looking for is a fast machine (of course) for digital image processing (photoshop & lightroom, primarily). In addition to being fast, I would like a lot of RAM to handle large graphic files (min 16 GB, prefer 32), and a 512 GB SSD with a 3 TB HDD for data. Of course, the video card would have to be up to snuff, but I'm not so sure about video card details.

Any suggestions? It would be great to configure something online and have it built without all the bloat and padding at a really attractive price.

A bit of background. My boot HDD recently failed on my Gateway FX6831-03. Repair utilities were useless so I booted into UBUNTU off a USB, and the disk utility confirmed that the old drive was failing. It's a nice set up but the processor is a Core i7 860, so it's a big long in the tooth. I upgraded to 16 GB recently. I was thinking of buying two new SSHDs and rebuilding one as a boot/data drive and the other to be cloned. I love that the case has hot swappable HDD bays. Doing this would be way cheaper. I guess I would get some performance boost out of the SSHD, once it 'learned' what files to put in the SS part. So, still weighing the options.

Thanks





 

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What you seek simply does not exist. If you want all those features in a pre-built system, you are going to pay dearly for it. Going through one of the bigger vendors like Dell is almost never a good idea, as is Cyberpower or IBUYPOWER. Those systems seem like a good deal but when you look at what really goes into them, such as the power supplies, they no longer are good deals. You can build your own and get exactly what you want with room to upgrade, and then you know what is going into your system. Or you can buy pre-built, get medicore or mystery components and then get slapped with huge shipping fees and downtimes when your system fails on you. Plus buying prebuilt from a place like Dell means that it will come with an operating system that is loaded with so much bloatware that it makes them near unusable. So you have to ask what it's worth - a couple of hours building yourself, which there are plenty of tutorials out there that show you how, and you get a clean install of the operating system, or buy something off the shelf and be stuck with lots of downtime fixing, repairing and upgrading the system? For $1700 you could easily get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270F ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($204.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($349.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card ($276.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.89 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1706.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-17 13:54 EST-0500

That will be a much better use of $1700 than anything you can possibly buy off the shelf.
 


Here is a build based on JBQ45's build but with components solely from NCIX so you can get them to build it. Some of the components had to be swapped out due to availability. You would have to go to their website to see true availability.

To have them build your computers you simply order the components online and a option will come up asking for assembly.

The i7 7700k is significantly faster than the 860 so you would have to make the decision to repair versus upgrade.

As far as the multiple hard drive configuration you might want to look into RAID configurations for hard drives.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xCjwCy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xCjwCy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($354.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($186.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB ACX 3.0 Video Card ($404.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.95 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1691.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-17 13:53 EST-0500
 
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Wow...thanks so much for this...and to everyone else too!




 

spodeworld

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Thanks all for your help. I went ahead and ordered the build suggested by imsqam through NCIX, with the addition of more RAM (32 GB) and an additional HDD. All tolled, it came in about $2010.

Looking forward to getting it. And, thanks for saving me from getting the DELL!
 

spodeworld

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To anyone considering the NCIX configuration noted above, you might want to consider 2x16GB or RAM instead of the 4x8:
G.SKILL Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18-38 1.35V 288PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - Black ($204.99)