$3000 Adobe Build-I need an INCREDIBLE pro again for build design direction.

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In 2014 an incredible member named Darksable helped my build a really good Photoshop/Video editing/3D editing computer. He REALLY new his stuff! I was very grateful. I have tried to contact him again but not successful. Can someone help me build another that will equal OR BETTER the last one? It needs to be quite so id like to stick with the case (or the new r5 version). Id like to upgrade everything (in a new 2nd build) to today's standards. The last build was as follows...

Case-Fractal Design Define R4 N82E16811352020
Power Supply SeaSonic 650-Watt ATX12V/EPS12V SSR-650RM
Processor-Intel Core i7-4790K-BX80646I74790K
Memory -Corsair CMX32GX3M4A1333C9 32gb
VIDEO CARD EVGA 06G-P4-3791-KR
FAN-Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
Drives-(4) Western Digital 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache WD1003FZEX
(RAID 10-2TB of storage, mirrored over four 1TB drives)
SS DRIVE 1-SanDisk Extreme II 480GB SATA IOPS- SDSSDXP-480G-G25
SS DRIVE 2-Crucial M500 240GB SATA CT240M500SSD1
(SS Drives for OS and Programs)
2x Bluray writer ASUS BW-12B1ST/BLK/G
SOUND CARD Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX 5.1 Sound Card SB1570

Is there a computer genious who might be willing to help me ??
 
Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2640 V4 2.4GHz 10-Core Processor ($899.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z10PE-D16 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($479.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (1 x 16GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory ($106.98 @ Directron)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (1 x 16GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory ($106.98 @ Directron)
Video Card: NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) 12GB Video Card ($1200.00)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3023.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-19 05:24 EST-0500

Get all the storage drives, Bluray Writers, Sound Card and CPU Cooler from previous PC and you are good to go.

The Case I went with is of very good quality. There is no Fractal Design case that can fit that motherboard.

This PC is highly upgradeable and you won't be needing to change the components like CPU GPU motherboard for a very long time. Just keep upgrading it. Add second CPU lot more RAM second TITAN X PASCAL and it will last you for very long time.
Went with a Strong PSU to be able to support Second CPU and GPU when added in future.

You seriously have some crazy requirements. Using Photoshop, After Effects, 3DS MAX on single PC is really crazy.
 
Single CPU setup with a proper NVMe OS / boot drive and 64 GB DDR4 memory. Four open memory slots for a future upgrade. Mirror the two RED drives below for your redundant storage array, and pull over the SanDisk Extreme and M500 as secondary drives. Also, stick with your current Titan Black for a while longer. It has plenty of life left in it...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2650 V4 2.2GHz 12-Core Processor ($1099.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X99X Killer ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($246.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($374.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Samsung 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($329.00 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Red 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($233.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Red 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($233.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black 6GB Superclocked Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $2688.93
 

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Hey sasams04! I really appreciate your time and your answer to my build request! I am honored that you are willing to share yor time for me! One question...lots of $0 prices in there (SS drives, cooler and the big one, the Vcard) I'm afraid that will kick me pretty far past a $3000 build...I am I right?
 

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You are too cool! FYI, this is a total 2nd build (first computer is still in action and WILL still be in action) so I wont be taking parts form it. This is a total new build for a 2nd station. That said, the un-accounted for parts wont push it THAT much over teh 3K $ limit...

This looks GREAT! Is the case pretty quite though? I LOVE the R4 case for its SILENT operation...but as yo said it wont fit.
 

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That 960 Pro seems like a waste of money when you're carrying the 2 SSDs over from the previous build. I wouldn't purchase a new case and PSU for this - the existing PSU and case are more than capable. That also seems like a waste of money. Just because you have that kind of money to spend doesn't mean that you have to hit that budget. If you have money left over, you have money left over. There's no way I would spend $1,000 for a CPU ever. Even with heavy CS5/6 usage, you might hit the CPU threshold, but it's very rare that would actually happen. I would go for a less expensive CPU since that's the part that would need to be upgraded more.
 


For some reason OP wants to have both the PCs so he won't be using SSDs or ODDs from previous build into new one.
 

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OK that makes sense then. I still wouldn't pay $1,000 or more for a CPU when you really don't gain anything from it, even for heavy duty video editing usage. I would do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6850K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($579.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A II ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($219.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Black 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($219.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($609.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($107.90 @ B&H)
Total: $2361.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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That gives you $700 left over.
 

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OK true. But looking at PC Part Picker prices, the 14 core Xeon E5-2690 V5 is priced at well over $2K, and the 12 core Xeon E5-2697 V5 is well over $2700. On a $3,000 budget that's not feasible. And more cores isn't always better, that's the justification that AMD fans use. Even the 10 core 6950X is over $1,700. This would be about the absolute max you could spend on $3K while maintaining a multi-core video editing rig:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6900K 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor ($1039.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A II ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($219.99 @ Corsair)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($219.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Black 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($219.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($399.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($107.90 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2920.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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That's the absolute max you could spend on a CPU heavy setup without going over $3K.
 
Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 2.2GHz 10-Core Processor ($649.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 2.2GHz 10-Core Processor ($649.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D9DX i4 3U 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.39 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D9DX i4 3U 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.39 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z10PE-D16 SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011-3 Narrow Motherboard ($389.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 64GB (4 x 16GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory ($417.77 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($379.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3025.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-19 12:55 EST-0500

The above build is strong.

But for me on a long run it is bit dis-satisfactory on both Video editing as well as 3D rendering.
 
Get this build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2680 V4 2.4GHz 14-Core Processor ($1687.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D9DX i4 3U 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.39 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z10PE-D16 SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011-3 Narrow Motherboard ($389.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory ($226.67 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory ($226.67 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GT 730 2GB Video Card ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3034.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-19 21:44 EST-0500

Get this build and upgrade your previous build in future to suit your 3D rendering needs when you have good amount to spend in your hand.

If you do that both your requirements will be met and will not be needing complete PC rebuild in a long time. It will also save you lot of money on long run.

For to clarify why I went with 14core CPU instead of 10core CPU. As 10-20core setup is good to satisfy 1080p rendering requirements. I would recommend minimum of 28cores in total to smoothly run and reduce the overall time for rendering a 4K video. As this is expected to last long OP will surely require to render 4K videos in future. In that case instead of upgrading both CPUs OP will only be required to add second CPU thus saving money.
 

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Sometimes you get better performance sometimes not. It depends on the software taking advantage of more cores, vs the lower clock speed that more cores in a single chip causes (thermal limits). It also depends on the ability to keep data flowing in and out of those cores. This is a situation where a dual socket (total) 12 core box may be better than an single socket build. The clock speed on two 6 core CPUs will be much higher than a single 12 core CPU. Additionally, the two sockets will have double the total memory bandwidth compared to a single socket.

You have to have benchmarks to make reasonable comparisons.
 

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1KW PSU for a GT 730? Single channel RAM on a quad channel system? $1700 for a CPU? And this is a good build because?
 

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Yes, I have two people working at one time! Also, very smart to have a total backup system in the event that a workstation goes down I'm not 100% out of business until a station gets fixed..
 

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That is true, there is no such thing as too many backup devices!
 

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Trust me, you know 1000x more than i do about a computer build but $1700 for a processor but only $55 for a video card?? If so, sorta makes me mad I spent like $1200 on my last video card! The current work station works GREAT but I guess it is NOT a function of a whammy jammy Vcard? Id be happy to build the same system i currently have but as you know, those parts aren't avail anymore...also since that few years has passed Id think a better build cold be had for near same $$$ What do you think??
 

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Photoshop and Adobe CS 5/6 benefit from more cores, that is true. But pairing a $1700 CPU with a $50 GPU is absolutely absurd especially if you plan to use it for purposes like rendering and editing.
 
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