Enquiry about upgrading from DSL router to Ethernet router

Teekiii

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Hi,
I'm having a tp-link router with a dsl input and ethernet output and I'm upgrading to linksys E4200 router which has ethernet input (routers with ethernet input slots aren't very common in my country), my question is will i have to use a modem to convert the dsl to an ethernet to match the linksys input or will just converting the dsl RJ11 to an ethernet RJ45 using a splitter or whatever will be enough?

Knowing that my ISP provides an ADSL service on my line,if that will make difference anyway,

Thanks in advance
 

Ralston18

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As I understand your intentions the upgrade should be fairly straight forward.

Your existing TP-Link router (make and model?) would be put into bridge mode and thus serve solely as the dsl modem. All routing functions would be disabled. The existing ADSL connection and splitter would all remain as is. (You cannot convert RJ11 to RJ45.)

With the TP-Link in bridge mode it would be connected to the Linksys E4200 Router which would be setup to assign DHCP IP addresses and become your network router.

An ethernet cable would be run from the TP-Link modem to the Linksys E4200 router. You will first need to configure the Linksys via a direct connection between a PC and one of the router's LAN ports.

Likewise you will need to then connect the modem to the router using the ports designated for bridging. You will probably need to check the respective User Guides/Manual to determine the ports to use.

 

Teekiii

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@Ralston18 let me tell you the whole situation in detail :

First off all the reasons I'm upgrading to linksys E4200 are these :

1- The TP-LINK router is horrible, it's so old and it's making using the Internet feels like hell as it demands restarting the router more than once a day.

2- I need a router that i can install DD-WRT on it so that i can use later as a VPN client and use VPN on everything that routes via the router (for many reasons), and i put a lot of effort choosing a good router and i found a used E2400 in a very good condition for sale in my country online but it was coming from another country, and i find it fair enough as it has a cheap price and also it's a wireless-dual band and that's heavin comparing to my old TP-LINK, But the only thing that is keeping me from buying it till now is that ethernet input thing.


Now coming to our current situation and the possible solutions, this is it:


CURRENT SITUATION

ADSL caple from the street > Spliter -> phone line (goes to the phone network inside the house)+ ADSL line (goes straight to the router) -> TP-LINK [External ADSL2+ Router / Model number : TD-8810] that what exactly was written on it -> TP-LINK switch -> two separate access points


Now the possible solutions that i understood from you are these two:


1- ADSL Cable from the street -> Spliter -> ADSL line -> TP-LINK router that is working as a bridge -> linksys router that is working as a router -> whatever i want


2-ADSL Cable from the street -> a modem -> phone line (goes to the phone network inside the house) + Ethernet line (goes to the linksys router) -> linksys router -> whatever i want

If that was what you meant, then i have 4 questions for you :

1- why wouldn't the third solution that i imagine work? [ADSL Cable -> Spliter -> dsl to Ethernet converter -> linksys router]

2- how come that such an advanced router as E4200 (comparing to my TP-LINK) require a modem work, while the very old TP-LINK td-8810 doesn't require a one, and works directly with the adsl line?


3- will any modem do the job? Also will any router replace the modem and do the bridging stuff? As i will go with the cheaper one in case if they are as effective as each other (the modem and the router i mean)

4- will any of the modem or the bridging router affect my VPN process or make the connection slower? I mean if they will affect the connection badly i can change the whole E4200 router with a DSL router that can take the DD-WRT on board, because the main purpose is to run a VPN routed home network.

Thanks in advance, i really appreciate your time


 

kanewolf

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The third option, your "dsl to ethernet converter" IS a modem. That is what they do, convert from one network type to another...

#2 An ethernet input on the router allows it work with any external connectivity, DSL, cable coax, microwave even... You just need to convert from those external physical networks to the standard ethernet via a modem.

#3 Your ISP will have a list of approved modems on a support page somewhere.

$4 a modem (or bridged router) shouldn't impact your speeds. DO NOT expect to get the 50Mbit (or whatever you pay for) ISP speed when in a VPN. VPN is very CPU intensive and your router may only provide less than 10Mbit throughput. I don't know for sure on that particular router....
 

Teekiii

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@kanewolf okay now i get it, i might go with a modem and the E4200 in the end, but it's very disappointing to know that VPN eats all that much of speed, i mean i read that it takes out 10 percent of the line speed as losses but with what ur saying that could turn out to be a bad idea specially that here in Egypt we have one of the slowest connections in the world with no kidding at all, my current speed is 2 mbps and i was going to raise it to 8 mbps before subscribing to a VPN providers, so maybe I'll stick with the E4200 as a powerful router with no VPN.

I'm really grateful for your time and your generous information on that specific topic, thank you very much really
 

kanewolf

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