teddytoodle :
If you overclock the kaby lake, expect it to get hot without proper water cooling.
I do not overclock my computer, more problems, more heat, less stability, more problems.
overheating, you will cook you cpu it runs stock at 4.5 ghz. why would you want to overclock.
If you want faster than a gtx 1070 or sli GET A GTX 1080 that is the minimum.
If you can afford, new mobo and cpu 1000 plus bucks,
you should be prepared to buy at least a gtx 1080 ,
if you need 4k gaming get the new ti when it comes out.
again overclocking is a big con to get you to buy their computer parts.
Oh five percent faster than stock, five percent is ridiculous.
if you need to overclock, then you obviously are buying sub par comp parts.
do not scrimp on the cpu, mobo, memory and graphics card.
When i do a rebuild I put all parts new. no overclocking it is lightning fast, now.
cooling is the most important,
Another thing that annoys me with graphics cards, why is it, when we pay
1000 bucks for a video card, it has fans cooling it?
cheaper and smarter to get liqiud cooling on video card.
BECAUSE MY FRIEND. cooling = stability. and fun gaming.
overclocking brings 5-10 percent gains, only to have lockups, errors
on disks, if you still use mechanical drives.
Buy a M.2 storage, buy the samsung pro 860 it is cheap and
reads at 3gig a second and writes at 1.5 gig a second.
kindest regards
tod
ps. mine idles at 35-40 degrees and gaming it goes max to 59 degrees with a water cooler, I have a nice white one
that is the lowest you can probably get lower, but 35 on idle with all pumps set to max in bios.
With the greatest of respect teddytoole... your post is total 100% BS! 
@Toms Mods - (This is not a rant or flaming, nor am I insulting user teddytoole, I just want to make it clear that him spreading info that is incorrect, is bad and can even be dangerous)
"Overclocking always equals instability and issues"; Yeah if you don't do it properly! If it was so crazy and unstable, why do millions of people do it
And for the past 6+ years it's been made ridiculously easy, so easy in fact that I've coached a dozen or more guys that are part of my gaming community through pretty heavy overclocking... Over Teamspeak! Because it's that easy.
Plus, 5-10% is not to be sniffed at, in some games that can be a noticeable difference. DayZ and ArmA, the difference between 4.4GHz and 5GHz is around 15-20fps depending on the GPU. Trust me, I spent days testing this and posted a massive thread on this last year.
Also, high frame-rates are very CPU heavy, requiring high CPU frequency to maintain the FPS.
People overclock because it's easy, fun, can make a noticeable difference in some areas, can increase the longevity of a PCs life meaning more time between upgrades... and more.
Kaby Lake is a hot chip, yes. But it does Not require custom water loops to overclock, that is stupid and ignorant! There are hundreds, if not thousands of guys over on OCN hitting 5.0 - 5.1GHz on Noctua D14s.
Always buy the best "Single" GPU you can afford, that is true. But he already has a 1070, so why sell it and buy a 1080 or 1080Ti, that's just daft, especially when we're more than half way through the dev cycle, so it won't be long before we start seeing 1100 series.
Also, telling him if he is having trouble overclocking it's because he bought cheap rubbish parts, is BS again, plus he clearly states in the OP you didn't read he actually has pretty decent components.
And the list goes on....
Pumps running at 100% flow do Not lower temps at all. Once you have sufficient flow that the water is not slack or stagnating in the water block, increasing the pump speed does nothing except make more noise and wear out the pump faster.
A 1080Ti is Not the minimum needed to run 4k, a 1070 will push 4k no problem, it won't run max settings at 60+fps obviously, but neither will a bloody 1080Ti! We are still at least 2 years away from CPU and mainly GPUs that can comfortably max 90% of games at 4k ultra settings, and maintain a constant 60+fps. Minimum 2 Years Away!
Dude, seriously. I believe you were trying to help and not just being a troll, but you cannot go around telling people a load of stuff that is Not true, just because you think it, you need FACTS!
You clearly have some knowledge, but you are very misinformed and/or have some seriously crazy ideas in other areas, as 95% of what you said above, is Completely Incorrect.
Tl;DR - Don't spread false information, or information that you have not yet researched and checked to be, Fact.
and extremely meticulous person so i should be okay
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