$2000-$2500 Gaming PC - Need Suggestions

cixwow

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My current system is about 5 years old and I was thinking it's about time for a new one. You guys were a big help last time, so I was wondering if I could get some assistance once again. Last time I came with a list of parts I was considering and I was told that almost everything was the wrong choice, so I figured I'd come in with a blank canvas and just listen to the experts (I hope this is okay).

Budget Range: $2000-$2500 AUD (~$1500-$2000 USD)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Uni assignments (3DS Max, Photoshop, Unity)

Are you buying a monitor: No. Maybe in the future, but it's not a priority.

Do you need to buy OS: Maybe. I have Windows 7 on my current system, is Windows 10 worth it?

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Scorptec

Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Parts Preferences: Intel, Nvidia

Overclocking: Maybe. I always get to scared to try it, but apparently it's pretty safe.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe. The vibe I'm getting is that a single 1080 is better than a less powerful card in SLi, so I'll probably go that way.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 (current)

Additional Comments: I would like to have an SSD as a system drive and HDD that's 2TB+ for storage. I was wondering if getting an additional SSD for games would be a good idea.

Why Are You Upgrading: My current PC is a little over 5 years old and it's starting to show its age. Battlefield 1 struggles to run at medium/low settings and it made me miss the days when I could run everything at ultra.

EDIT: Taken from reply post:

Thanks everybody for your advice, it gave me a lot to think about.
I've been stewing over your suggestions all day (probably over complicating things... I made a spreadsheet ffs) and this is what I was thinking about:

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor - $494.00
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler - $69.00
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard - $287.10
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory - $148.50
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive - $178.00
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive - $123.20
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card - $899.00
Case: NZXT H440 (Green/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case - $195
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply - $150.40
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit - $129.00
Total: $2,673.20

Now I did end up going over budged a bit. But I might end up bringing it down. I ended up going for a case other than the ones suggested and it's a bit more expensive, but I like the way it looks and my previous two cases have been NZXT's. The problem is I can't find the black/green colour in my state, which would be a deal breaker unless I can talk someone into doing a special order or something. But if not... at least I could cut around $100 off the price with something cheaper!

I also decided to go for the 1080 even though 4/5 of you recommended going with the 1070. I would like the leave the option open to get some extra screens (possibly around June) as this would help with Uni work (I often have 2-3 programs open at once, switching back and forth constantly) and gaming. 4K seems to be all the rage these days, but it sounds expensive. But either way, I figured I'd leave myself with some options.

Are the any changes I could/should make?
 
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Dont really need gtx 1080 for 1080p gaming even 1440p this is what i would do

edit: forgot there was australian on pcpartpicker and you guys sem to have way higher prices so this is what i made.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($494.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 35.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z270-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($205.00 @ Umart)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($148.50 @ Newegg Australia)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($124.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($95.00 @ IJK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($599.00 @ Scorptec)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($105.00 @ PLE Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($146.30 @ Skycomp Technology)
Total: $1955.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-21 06:23 AEDT+1100
 

jpatrick2

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Here you go mate, this should keep you rockin' for the next 5 years!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($494.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($45.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($239.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($155.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($178.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($123.20 @ Skycomp Technology)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($899.00 @ Scorptec)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.00 @ IJK)
Total: $2371.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-21 06:23 AEDT+1100
 
No need to separate installed games on a different drive / SSD. That was more for the older hard drives that were slow to begin with. A modern SSD will handle the load with little issues. Overclocking isn't required to game at high settings. The setup below will have no issues gaming at 1080 or 1440 resolution and is a non-overclocking, single GPU build. If you go past 1440, or start gaming on multiple monitors, then look toward the GTX 1080.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($439.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B250M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($127.60 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($144.10 @ Newegg Australia)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($95.00 @ IJK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($595.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Deepcool KENDOMEN Red ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $1763.70
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($494.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($239.00 @ IJK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($147.98 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Crucial MX300 1.1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($390.50 @ Storm Computers)
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.00 @ IJK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($595.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Thermaltake Core X31 ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.00 @ Umart)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($150.40 @ Skycomp Technology)
Total: $2315.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-21 08:37 AEDT+1100
 

g-unit1111

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I have all my games installed on a scratch drive, GTA V included. And I've never noticed any lag. That aside here's a suggestion I would give:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($494.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($287.10 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($189.00 @ Scorptec)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.00 @ IJK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($629.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($189.00 @ Umart)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($129.00 @ IJK)
Total: $2301.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-21 09:10 AEDT+1100

Then you can use the remainder for whatever you want.
 

cixwow

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Thanks everybody for your advice, it gave me a lot to think about.
I've been stewing over your suggestions all day (probably over complicating things... I made a spreadsheet ffs) and this is what I was thinking about:

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor - $494.00
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler - $69.00
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard - $287.10
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory - $148.50
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive - $178.00
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive - $123.20
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card - $899.00
Case: NZXT H440 (Green/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case - $195
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply - $150.40
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit - $129.00
Total: $2,673.20

Now I did end up going over budged a bit. But I might end up bringing it down. I ended up going for a case other than the ones suggested and it's a bit more expensive, but I like the way it looks and my previous two cases have been NZXT's. The problem is I can't find the black/green colour in my state, which would be a deal breaker unless I can talk someone into doing a special order or something. But if not... at least I could cut around $100 off the price with something cheaper!

I also decided to go for the 1080 even though 4/5 of you recommended going with the 1070. I would like the leave the option open to get some extra screens (possibly around June) as this would help with Uni work (I often have 2-3 programs open at once, switching back and forth constantly) and gaming. 4K seems to be all the rage these days, but it sounds expensive. But either way, I figured I'd leave myself with some options.

Are the any changes I could/should make?
 

cixwow

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It looks like I will be able to get that case, so I think I will even though it's more expensive. I just really like the black/green colour scheme.

From what I can see, the biggest difference in my last post between going over budget is the GPU. And considering 4/5 of you suggest a 1070, I'm thinking about how worth it it is. The two main reasons I put the 1080 in my "considering" build is leaving an option to upgrade my monitor setup later as well as trying to squeeze in a little more time before needing to update.

I can go a little over budget without much concern. But I was wondering if the 1080 could be worth paying the extra now while I have the cash, or if I should take a step back, get the 1070 and upgrade it sooner.

Also, I'm still not sure how good my build is. I pretty much went over the last 5 responses and did a bit of "pick-and-choose" from those.
 

g-unit1111

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Honestly depends on your monitor resolution. You don't need a GTX 1080 for 1080P. Anyone who says that does not know what they are talking about. If you're building with a monitor upgrade in mind then definitely go for the 1080. If not then go for the 1070.
 

cixwow

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Thanks again for your reply. I appreciate your bluntness.

While I am planning to upgrade my monitor setup (although it won't be until around June) I'm not sure what I'll be looking at yet. And I'll likely be prioritising quantity over quality (as more screens will drastically boost productivity for my university work) so I'm not sure how much higher the resolution will go, etc. So for now I'm considering the 1070. I might do some pre-emptive research to get an idea of what I might be looking for, and if it looks like some of the higher resolution screens could be in my budget around that time I may consider going up to a 1080.

Is everything else in the updated build list okay?

One last thing. Although I have the CPU cooler you suggested in my considered build, I can't get it (or any of the other suggested coolers in this thread) from my preferred store. There is a place in my city that does sell it, so if it's that good I could find the time to go and get one, but is there anything from this list that would be equally suitable?
 

g-unit1111

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Yes that looks good to me! Alternately if you can't find the Cryrorig I would suggest the Noctua NH-U12S: https://www.pccasegear.com/products/23011/noctua-nh-u12s-cpu-cooler/
 
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