Replacement MOBO for Emachines et 1331g

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JackWatermelon

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I have given up hope on getting a new graphics card in hopes getting one that can run openGL 3.3 or better.
i do not want a new machine. I'm hoping that if i get a new motherboard it'll have some inter graded graphics that would have open gl 3.3 or better to run. It's for gaming. So is there a mobo i can put in this machine that would be compatible, just want open GL and it to be for windows 7. Oh wise internet wizards, is there hope?

I got some current upgrades for my machine, if they are not compatible I can replace them, just letting you all know so mabye it can help:

got a new power suply, works perfectly

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-PC-Power-Supply-Upgrade-for-eMachines-ET1331G-Computer-/320842681534

Here's what the inside of my machine looks like right now:

https://photos.shutterfly.com/gallery/17255bfb-35f7-4a0c-830e-c4b09c12a3eb

Here are the system specs:
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer eMachines
System Model ET1330
System Type x64-based PC
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 235e Processor, 2700 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date AMI P01-A0, 8/13/2009
SMBIOS Version 2.6
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 6.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 5.75 GB
Available Physical Memory 2.62 GB
Total Virtual Memory 14.7 GB
Available Virtual Memory 10.7 GB
Page File Space 9.00 GB
 
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I Do not want to buy a new computer, no trolling that please.
Here are more specs just in case:
Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 235 31 °C
Regor 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 401MHz (6-6-6-18)
Motherboard
eMachines MCP61PM-GM (CPU 1) 41 °C
Graphics
L1932TQ (1280x1024@60Hz)
256MB NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (Acer Incorporated [ALI])
Storage
698GB Seagate ST375052 8AS SCSI Disk Device (SATA) 41 °C
298GB Seagate ST332041 8AS SCSI Disk Device (SATA) 40 °C
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH40F SCSI CdRom Device
MagicISO Virtual DVD-ROM0000
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
 
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if you get a new mobo, you are to all intents and purposes getting the interesting part of a new machine, and you'll need new memory too, so you are looking for a Mobo + CPU + RAM ugrade.

My concern is that your mobo might not be a std ATX mobo size and therefore a new one may not fit into the case.

The good news is that most modern CPU's have decent igpu's built into them (not into the mobo like yours is).

So precisely what are you trying to achieve, and what's the budget.
 
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Yes, and it's runing perfectly inside of it right now. my system sped up very quickly after doing so.
Because noone on the other sites believes in stright awsners on what graphics card is compatible with this system, i'm trying to get a new mother board that hopefull has better graphics intergrated into it so i can run openGL 3.3 or better. curently i can only run 2.1 and that's the max it can do after all those updates. Got any ideas?
 
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Right, the graphics slot on your mobo will be most like AGP, you will not get an AGP card any more (except perhaps on ebay, but they are very old, very weak, poorly supported, and might require more power than modern cards). Which leads me to the next point, the PSU is very very weak, it can only do 16A on 12V (which is the important rail), so this is only 200W you have to play with, really that makes it a PSU in the 200-250W range, which to my mind removes any chance of any discrete card, even if I am wrong about AGP.

My first thought was that you'll not find a direct replacement board that offers much more, if anything, in terms of GPU power, and again it'll be ebay. I really wouldn't go there, it'll be a lot of time and effort hunting it down, a lot of risk, and they may not be that cheap (supply and demand etc.).

However, looking at this a different way, that athlon II x2 just needs an AM2+/AM3 board,

AM2+ requires DDR2 ram which you have, but the boards will be very very rare.
AM3 requires DDR3, which is commonly available we just have to find one with integrated graphics, not easy.

I'll look.

 
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right something like this should work.
http://www.awd-it.co.uk/gigabyte-ga-78lmt-usb3-amd-ddr3-micro-atx-dvi-motherboard-socket-am3.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiAzZHEBRD0ivi9_pDzgYMBEiQAtvxt-F4PnIr3wevdBxSsfCDnv9dwoRSl5YlA-qsaBrvUVSEaAomn8P8HAQ

HD3000 graphics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_3000_Series covers upto open GL 3.3

And add some DDR3 to it.

The only slight concern is if your current board and PSU are fully atx compliant (some manufcaturers changed the 24pin layout to suit themselves and lock you into their spares, I don't think emachines were big enough). You can check the 24pin colours against the wiki entry and they should match.

But at that point spending £50odd on a new mobo (plus cost of ram), it might be better to spend maybe £100 (plus cost of ram) and get a new cpu and mobo.

something like this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/P3Lrm8 would be less like throwing money into something already dead.
 
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I have a pCI-e x16 slot, i did post specs and pics. I also put in there a link to the new power supply i put in here, which is a Stratus 400 power box by dream PC. if that helps any, as well as a link to pics of inside the machine. It's the 2ed blue thing in my origional post. I'll perfer a AM2 board, as the other probably won't work. I never heard of DDR3 on here. it is a 24 pin. so yay there. I have a new CPU on the way, many other said it's the best i can put on here, and it'll arrive in a week or so. can you post a link of what my motherboard is? like in a online shop or something as well?
 
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the intergraded graphics is nvidia, so it may be best to stick to that for upgrades for this machine. and something better than opengl 3.3. is prefered. I'd hate to spend all that and for the progrogram to say it needs opengl 3.35 or whatever.
 
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sorry all of your pics were blurry

You won't find an AM2 board, and if you could would have similar graphics to what you have now.

As I stated above your PSU is weak (I'm being kind here, it's almost pointless).

An AM3 board will work, you just need DDR3 instead.

You've got PCI-E, great, BUT your power supply is weak enough that I would only fit the weakest of GPU's like a Gt710, and even then I'd cross my fingers when I turned it on.

You'll not find your board online in a shop, a) it's too old, b) it's probably special to emachines.
 
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oh, drat. those ones require 300 watts, i got 400. hope that helps. :D I tried a 730, it turned on just fine, just was not detected as it's DDR3, not DDR2. can you find a graphics card for that? weak is fine. ANYTHING is better than what i got, even if it 1 teir above. can you send a link with my intergrated graphics card specs? the nvidia 610 one. thank you for your time.
 
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He's being very kind about the PSU. Looking at it, I can just smell the blown capacitors.

Your upgrade options are extremely limited, unfortunately. You need a new CPU, motherboard, RAM, and power supply if you want a discrete GPU. And at that point, you've built most of a new PC, which you told us not to recommend.

What is your budget for upgrades? Some parameters would be useful given that you're all over the place here.
 
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^you have the wheel, not sure what time zone the op is in, but I know mine.

My spidersense is tingling about that psu being sold as a replacement for an emachines xyz, only similar thing I've seen would have been old old Dell with custom 24pin power configuration. It might just be that no one else would buy one I suppose?
 
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Well the the motherboard hates graphics cards anyway and i bought 4 diffrent PSU's and no other has the right hookups, 200-250 watts? this thing right here?

https://www.google.com/search?q=cpu+upgrade+for+emachines&oq=cpu+upgrade+for+emachines&aqs=chrome..69i57.7148j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=psu+upgrade+for+emachines+et1331&tbm=shop&spd=6103191394568347559

I'm just checking, because that is what is installed and you all keep saying it's 200-250 watts, that was the stock power box i sent to the firey depths of hell, never to return. The one in the link provided however, is the one i am using.

I any case, it's so old that new graphics cards wont work anyway. They turn on and for days when my computer is at 80% load the fans don't stop spinning. They were sort-of detected. showing 2 nvidia options in the control panel menu, the computer only crashed when i clicked the new option. fustrated, i sent it back for a refund. So i'm pretty sure that the cards and psu is not a problem, considering i have 3 Hard disk drives running on it and it's been running actually way faster then the powerbox it came with from stock. I already got a cpu coming in at the mail that 14 hardware sites all agreed it's the best for my machine in terms of compatibility. I'm just looking for a motherboard, any motherboard related suggestions that suggest to mother boards and motherboard related suggestions?
 
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And what is that CPU you bought? How exactly would I, or anyone here, be able to give you a motherboard for an unknown CPU?

For all intents and purposes, your "new" PSU in the link is a sub-200W PSU because of only 16A on the +12V rail, made by an unknown manufacturer. We were not confused by this.

I wish you the best of luck in your upgrades, but trying to communicate with you is a nightmare and I have to bow out at this point.
 
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Last time, that psu is only capable of 200 to 250w, its shockingly bad.

You've been told an am3 or indeed an3+ will work, but you'll need new memory. I have the same processor as yours, just faster, in an am3 board with ddr3 memory. But you will need a new psu.

I don't understand why you've brought a cpu when you say that you don't want to buy new things. You buy a cpu mobo and ram together, not buy a mobo to match you current cpu and then get another cpu.

I'm not sure how much listening you are doing to others vs a predetermined course of action that you've already embarked on.
 
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ESTEC power supplies have a reputation for malfunctioning a lot more often than average, and when they malfunction or fail completely, they are a lot more likely than average to damage something else - they often fry the mboard.

"450w +12v@26A"

The +12v minimum amperage or greater rating is more important than the wattage rating.

Some power supplies have more than one +12v rating - if yours does, add them.

If you're a gamer...
In most if not all cases, the max capacity rating of the PS is an intermittent rating. It's recommended that you do not load your PS to any more that 80% of that rating if you are going to be using something that puts a constant load on it, such as playing a recent game for hours on end. In that case, you multiply the min capacity stated for the system with the particular video chipset on the card by 1.25 to find the min. capacity of the PS you should get.

In this case, 450 x 1.25 = 562.5 watts minimum


If you need to get a PS with more capacity, you can usually replace it with any decent standard sized standard ATX PS.

Standard (PS/2) power supply size - 86mm high, 150mm wide, 140mm deep, or 3 3/8" h x 5 7/8" w x 5 1/2" d , or very close to that, though the depth can be more or less for some PSs.

 
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NO. We've suggested mobo's to you, both specifically and in general, any AM3/AM3+ mobo will do with the purchase of DDR3.

We're reticent about AM2 boards as they will have the same built in GPU (so you are in the same boat you are now), and are only available second hand. Additionally your PSU is not strong enough for any GPU (In my opinion), so you cannot bridge the gap that way.
 
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