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Dani_vic

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Hello everyone,
I am new to building my own PC but I am not new to working with PCs. My main worry is to get the correct and best parts I can get for my budget. This will really be pretty much a gaming PC.

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)

I am looking to buy within a month but if there something new I should be wait for I can wait

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping

Again this is the tricky part. I don't have a big budget. I want to spend around $700. I have a mouse, keyboard and a monitor to use. I only need a desktop.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)

Gaming. No VR needed

Are you buying a monitor: Yes / No

No.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes / No
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Yes planning on buying windows 10. 90$ on amazon. Any cheaper options?

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing)

No preferred options.

Location: City, State/Region, Country - we need to know where these parts are being assembled and whether there are good store-only deals available

Illinois

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to upgrade to Intel CPU)
No preference.

Overclocking: Yes / No / Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes / No / Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or if you're upgrading please state what you'd want to get)
My monitor:

BenQ 27-Inch Gaming Monitor - LED 1080p HD Monitor - 1ms Response Time for Ultra Fast Console Gaming (RL2755HM) (Discontinued by Manufacturer) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RORBPCO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xgzHyb2QRK4YB


Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC.)

Don't need it to be flashy. But I do enjoy some open look in the case. The quieter the better for me and my space. If it's much better to go over my budget by 50-100 and it will give me a much better pc. But i don't mind going under also of course


Thank you everyone before hand for any suggestions.
 
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Heyo Dani_vic

Something like this might tickle your fancies.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($95.79 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 600p Series 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.55 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $684.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-23 02:12 EST-0500
 
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Dani_vic

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Thanks! What's the difference between rx 480 4gb and 470? Also what about cooling on this set up?
 
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There isn't really that much of a different between the 470 and 480. The 480 will beat the 470 by maybe 5-7%, but not really worth the extra bucks in my opinion.
You could go for the 1060 if are willing to spend some extra money on it :)
The cooling in this build should be fine. As far as I remember there's one fan included in the case, as 1 intake. You could buy another as exhaust, but it's up to you. It will be cool enough as it is right now.
 
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That's far too much money on case/PSU:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B250M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($41.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X Video Card ($196.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: DIYPC DIY-F2-O ATX Mini Tower Case ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($50.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $697.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-23 07:59 EST-0500

A better build with some extra expense:
PSU : Corsair CXM 550W 80+Bronze Semi-Modular : + $15 for modularity to get a cleaner look inside the case.

Case : Fractal Design Define S : + $22 for quiet computing with two 140mm fans compare to the two 120mm fans of the F2. Another 2$ more for the Windowed version.

Storage : SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive : + $26 for an SSD large enough for Windows and more than just one or two games.

Memory : Avexir Core Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 : + $46.02 for multitasking while gaming.

 
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If you can spend $50 extra get this build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($178.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($42.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.34 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($371.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($26.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($45.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $754.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-23 09:45 EST-0500

A strong one and will provide good performance at 1080p for 3-4Years even at very high settings(most of the games).
 
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Dani_vic

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You wouldnt be worried a such slow clocking speed on a processor like that? With a strong GPU like that?
 
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Dani_vic

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Would it make more sense to go after a stronger GPU like maybe a 1060 6gb or grab more memory?
 
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Nope in this case CPU won't be bottle-necking the GPU. But in CPU intense games there will be bit fall in fps.
If you can spend $60 which is $10 more than above one get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($42.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.34 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($371.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($26.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($45.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $764.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-23 10:59 EST-0500
 
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Dani_vic

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Hmm Thanks. I like this build even though that GPU is a bit price. The only thing I would change is to a case that has more fans in it already and the only other concern I have is that mother board. I might have to go after like a 1060 6gb instead of the 1070 due to my budget if I want to put anything higher up in there other than the card or would you say the card is the most important part?
 
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That motherboard is of very high quality.Do not worry about it.
 
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Is 1070 really WORTH it or if i go with 1060 6gb it won't be that big of a drop off.
 
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It is completely worth it. You can check and compare the benchmarks.

GTX 1060 benchmarks:

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GTX 1070 benchmarks:

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That was the case with i7-6700K which is unlocked CPU and was set to 4.5GHz. Yours being locked there will be greater drop in frame rates,
 
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GTX 1060 does not have enough juice over a RX 480 to make it last any longer. They'll both be outdated at around the same time so the extra expense on that isn't worth it unless you prefer being/staying on the green camp or the games you play favor nVidia cards.

For your specific use, 1080@60Hz, a GTX 1070 is an over-investment especially when it is at the expense of other vital components.


Q> Why the modular PSU is one part of my recommendation for you as a new builder:

Do you want to subject yourself through the same hell as this guy : ApatheticRenegade build in that Zalman ZM-T1 Plus ($26.99+12.99Shipping); the ACX 3.0 cooler of the EVGA card would be even longer than that reference RX480.

With the F2, at least you do have some space for cables : ErrorSuccess build. Some of the visible cables are from the RGB LED strips/fans/fan controller of the NZXT HUE+/AER/GRID+ (because the Gigabyte H110-A, like the ASUS H110M-A/M.2, only has one chassis fan header unlike the MSI B250M Mortar which comes with three).

Edit:
The 16GB Avexir kit is now on sale at $89.99 or $10 less at Newegg.
With NAND price guaranteed to only going up in the coming year: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ssd-hdd-shortage-nand-market,33112.html

You'd do yourself a great favor by getting the larger SSD and/or RAM now when they're on sale (a months or two ago, this 16GB kit was ~$67).




 
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