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Hello, I'm trying to build my PC, but I've been having some problems about deciding what kind of cooling system should I set for my CPU, I've been reading a bunch of threads around the website and they were very helpful, but, I'm still being a newbie on this, so it's being a little bit hard for me to understand some problems about size, energy comsumption and so on...also I would like to share my build (well, the parts I mean, since I haven't set up anything yet) so to explain myself a little better and maybe for those who know more could give an answer to help me a little bit more on understanding what I'm doing here lol:

Motherboard: ASUS RGB LGA1151 DDR4 HDMI M.2 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 B150 ATX PRO GAMING/AURA
Memory: G.Skill 16GB (dual channel kit) 3200MHz DDR4 Trident Z
Graphic Card: MSI Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5
CPU: Intel Core I5-6600k
Storage: Samsun 850 EVO 500GB - 2.5 inch SATA III Internal SSD
Case: To buy, here's one problem, I've been recommended to buy the Nzxt Phantom 410 Mid tower case. I'll accept any suggestions.
Power Supply: I was thinking about a 750W power supply, again I'll accept sugestions.

I'll appreciate any comments about this, forgive me if I haven't explained myself very well, english it's not my native language.
Thanks a lot
 
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Since you already have the parts you listed, i refined my build.
(Because i don't speak Spanish nor can understand it, i listed the components in pcpp.)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer i32 CPU Cooler ($29.80 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING/AURA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar...
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Completed your build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($80.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING/AURA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($154.80 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.11 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($398.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.11 @ Jet)
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME 650W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($151.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1436.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-24 17:59 EST-0500

Few words.

Didn't change CPU.

Put in one of the best performing CPU air coolers that also has good looks.
Further reading: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181.html

Didn't change MoBo.

But did change the RAM from high-profile to normal-profile so the Be Quiet CPU cooler can fit over the RAMs without RAM clearance issues.

Went with 250GB SSD that is plenty for OS and applications.

For extra money spared from SSD, put in very reliable 3TB HDD for data storage.

Since there are many variations of MSI GTX 1070 and without knowing which color theme you're going with, put in Armor series GPU that shares the MoBo's black & white theme.

Since choosing the case is completely a personal choice, suggesting one to you is hard. Still, went on and put in good build quality Corsair case that is both practical and good looking with enough CPU cooler clearance to fit the Be Quiet CPU cooler. Case also comes in white color.
video review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNPT0zqS5rc

750W PSU is too much for your PC, so, went on and put in the best 650W PSU money can buy at current date, a Seasonic PRIME 650.
80+ Titanium, fully modular, extremely tight voltage regulation of under 0,5%, fluid dynamic bearing fan, premium hybrid fan control, 10 years of warranty are just few features of this awesome PSU.
Further reading: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html

(I also have PRIME 650 in my Skylake build, full specs in my sig.)

If the parts you listed are already purchased then let me know, so i can redefine my build (e.g pick different CPU cooler). Also, knowing the build color theme you're going with (e.g black, black & white, black & red, black & blue etc) helps to finalize the build better. About cases, if you don't like the plain looking case i picked for you then let me know and i'll suggest another one. If you're on limited budget then i can go cheaper on PSU too without sacrificing the PSU build quality.
 
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Thank you for your quick answer, I really appreciate the work you put on this, really big thanks.
Now, I wanted to make things a little bit clear:
If the parts you listed are already purchased then let me know, so i can redefine my build : that's a yes, I've already purchased all the items I've listed before.
Before continuing on this, I'm from Argentina, and by saying this I mean that prices are way too expensive comparing to the US, right now I don't have a lot of money issues, and it doesn't really matter if I have to spent more money on this for it to work properly and for a long long time. So, for example, the colours don't matter, since probably there aren't many options here to buy, and most of them are really expensive, also if the part I need comes in another colour it won't stop me to buy it since what I need is the part, not the colour (e.g. the graphic card I bought in the USA last time I've traveled cost me around $400, if I'm not mistaken, in my country the same graphic card is around $1000, so that gives you a clear idea of the what I'm trying to say). The exact value of a dollar here is 1 dollar =
15,9550705 pesos argentinos.
The case you showed me looks great, but since some of the parts I've bought are bigger I think I might have a problem with the space.
I haven't bought the power supply yet, so the one you showed me looks good, still, I would go for a 700 maybe?, idk, maybe I'm wrong.
To finish (and I think I've answered your questions, if you have others please let me know) don't go cheaper, I really don't mind spending more money on this because I want it to work properly and finally have the computer of my dreams haha, but be aware that there might be some products that are not available in my country, if this happens I'll let you know, so don't mind using everything you know, I'll check everything you tell me to.
Again, thank you so much, for your effort and patience, and if I sound aggressive or something on the answer, please have in mind that I'm not trying to, it's a little bit harder for me to communicate in english and I might sound as if Tarzan would be writing this answer haha.
Looking forward to your answer :)
 
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Sure but they're all in spanish, if you have any questions I can translate or whatever:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EWLYXf_ZGftE5rzsU6Wl_0VEyH6iTBvCU_R4VLOFlsg/edit#gid=0
http://www.gameron.com.ar/index.php?id_category=29&controller=category
http://listado.mercadolibre.com.ar/fuente-seasonic-750-w#D[A:fuente-seasonic-750-w]
And I've asked in some of this sites for stock and prices, since they may change by time and this is what they offered me:
Corsair Hydro Series H115i 3717$ (this are argentinian pesos)
Power Supply: CORSAIR CX series CX750M $2699
Nzxt Phantom 410 case: 2000$
Other models for this items you can check them on the google doc.
And the site "Mercado Libre" is like the amazon from south america lol, you can search for stuff there :)
 
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Since you already have the parts you listed, i refined my build.
(Because i don't speak Spanish nor can understand it, i listed the components in pcpp.)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer i32 CPU Cooler ($29.80 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING/AURA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.11 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.11 @ Jet)
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME 650W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($151.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $379.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-25 20:29 EST-0500

(The components you have i marked as purchased.)

Few words.

Changed CPU cooler to the same one as used in my Skylake build. Arctic Freezer i32 is 150mm tall and it doesn't have any RAM clearance issues.
Also, Arctic Freezer i32 uses fluid dynamic bearing fan that is far better than the sleeve bearing fan used in Hyper 212 EVO.
From here you can read why i don't like sleeve bearings and why i prefer fluid dynamic bearings,
link: http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/779-computer-case-fan-bearing-differences

With Arctic Freezer i32, you can easily upgrade your CPU cooling from push configuration to push-pull configuration with any 120mm fan. I did so on my Skylake build where i first used 2nd 120mm Arctic F12 PWM fan. At current date, i replaced the Arctic fluid dynamic bearing fans with Corsair ML120 magnetic levitation bearing fans to improve cooling performance and gain some eyecandy.

I also kept the HGST (Hitachi) 3TB HDD for additional storage. If you don't need the extra storage then feel free to remove it. But if you like to have extra storage and that specific model isn't available at your location, pick any other HGST (Hitachi) HDD that is available. HGST (Hitachi) HDDs are the most reliable HDDs there are. Further reading: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-q1-2016/

Didn't change the case. Case supports CPU coolers up to 170mm and GPU length up to 370mm.
specs: http://www.corsair.com/en/carbide-series-clear-400c-compact-mid-tower-case

You said that you have some components that may not fit in the Corsair Carbide 400C case, care to tell which components they are?

About PSU, 700W range PSU is far too much for your system. Your GPU is 150W, add the rest of the system at about 200W and in total, you'll get 350W. Even if you OC your CPU/GPU and put another 50W - 100W load on PSU, the total would be 450W. 650W is more than enough for your PC. So, i left the Seasonic PRIME 650 in the build.
Yes, PRIME 650 is about 50 USD more expensive than Corsair RMx series PSUs or EVGA SuperNOVA G2 series PSUs but it's also the best 650W PSU money can buy and you can be sure that you do get every bit of top performance for your money.
Here's proof: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html
Seasonic SSR-650TD

Verdict

The new Seasonic Titanium platform is awesome! The 650 W Prime model offers amazing performance in all areas and super high efficiency. Hands down this is the best 650 W unit money can buy today and on top of that it is dead silent, even under worst case scenarios.
Click to expand...
One more thing about PSUs,
Here's PSU Tier list: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

From PSU Tier list, you can see that Corsair CXM series PSU is low quality (Tier four) PSU. Corsair did redesign their CXM series and improved them a little bit. At best, the new CXM series PSU is mediocre quality (Tier three) PSU.
Seasonic PRIME 650 that i suggested is great quality (Tier one) PSU and on top of that, it's the best 650W PSU there is.

Corsair CX750M is semi modular with 80+ Bronze efficiency and 5 years of warranty.
Seasonic PRIME 650 is fully modular with 80+ Titanium efficiency and 10 years of warranty.

Corsair CX750M specs: http://www.corsair.com/en/cx-series-cx750m-750-watt-80-plus-bronze-certified-modular-atx-psu-eu
Seasonic PRIME 650 specs: https://seasonic.com/product/prime-650-w-titanium/

If the Seasonic PRIME 650 is too expensive for you then for cheaper price in Tier one i suggest: Seasonic Platinum 660 or Seasonic X-650. And in Tier two i suggest: Seasonic G-650 or Seasonic M12II-620 EVO.
Only the Seasonic G-650 is semi-modular, all others are fully modular.
pcpp: http://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/Tc3RsY,Fgwqqs,CfXfrH,R7V48d/
 
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I'll compare RM650x and G2 650W to PRIME 650.

The first thing you can see is the 80+ efficiency certification each PSU has.
RM650x: 80+ Gold
G2 650W: 80+ Gold
PRIME 650: 80+ Titanium

80-Power-Supply-Certification-System1.jpg


And average efficiency as well.
RM650x: 88.38%
G2 650W: 90.92%
PRIME 650: 92.44%

2nd is +12V rail load regulation. By ATX standard, the regulation must not be more than 5%. On 12V rail, that means PSU must maintain it's voltage between 11.4V and 12.6V.
RM650x: 1.18%
G2 650W: 0.89%
PRIME 650: 0.37%

3rd is hold-up time. By ATX standard, hold-up time must be at least 16ms (the higher it is, the better).
RM650x: 21.8ms
G2 650W: 21ms
PRIME 650: 34ms

I'll also list the average noise.
RM650x: 22.57 dB(A)
G2 650W: 27.71 dB(A)
PRIME 650: 18.94 dB(A)

For more info about each PSU, feel free to go and read the sources i used:
RM650x: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-rm650x-psu,4611.html
G2 650W: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/SuperNOVA_G2_650/
PRIME 650: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690.html
 
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