Suffering from High Ping and Problems Streaming to Twitch, Please Help!

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Dalactic

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I am honestly not sure where to begin with the issues I have been having over the course of the past couple of months. Frankly, I am having very sporadic ping issues while being hardwired directly to my modem. This issue has affected all of my consoles, along with my PC; however, the issue is sporadic. I also have trouble streaming to Twitch (from OBS classic) as I begin to drop serious frames with the "indicator" cycling through red, yellow, and green (another seemingly random issue). It may also be worth mentioning that these problems arise at any time of day, not only a certain time of day. This is a brief summary on the issue, so I guess I should get down to the details.

For beginners, as I previously stated, each device is hardwired directly to my modem. We have an internet plan through Spectrum offering 200mbps/20mbps (more on the ISP later). As far as my PC goes, here is my rig:


  • MB: Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 5
    GPU: MSI GTX 980 TI 6Gb
    CPU: Intel i7-6700k
    RAM: 16gb ddr4
    PSU: Evga 850watt G2
    OS: Windows 10
    Virus Protection: Windows Defender

    Modem: Technicolor TC8715D

If any other details are needed, please let me know. Then I also have the issue on my PS4 and Xbox One.

Now, I have lived in this house for 6-7+ years now and have never had any issues regarding lag while gaming. Then a couple of months ago (not entirely sure when) I began noticing sporadic issues with lag while gaming. At first I believed it was bad server connection or just my internet crapping out, but the problems persisted for months. I may have 1 or 2 good games with nice ping ranging in the 20ms-50ms ballpark, then the next match my ping hits 200ms+. I thought maybe it was the game I was playing, but the problem followed me from game to game and platform to platform.

Along with the high ping, I've had my woes while attempting to stream to Twitch. For the first couple of months I never had any issues, then all of the sudden I was dropping frames like a madman. After restarting the modem a couple of times, the issue sometimes is resolved, but not always. I also use a specific program that allows me to test my bandwidth to each Twitch server. The results will sometimes return with an RTT of 250+ and low bandwidth. Others with an RTT of around 20-30 and 10000+ kbps bandwidth. There are times that the program will show a solid connection to the server, then once I go to stream...Frames start dropping to the deep abyss.

With these newfound issues I began my quest to resolve this alone, and let me tell you, I am at my witts end. I feel like I have tried everything imaginable. On several occasions, I would tackle these problems, scour the internet for hours, fail, and repeat the process. So here's what I have done, and hopefully I can remember everything:


    1. Contacted my ISP (Spectrum). Technician was sent out, didn't see anything wrong with the cables and such, replaced the modem to a "newer and better" one.
    2. Changed DNS settings to Google's DNS on every device.
    3. Checked firewall settings (could have missed something there but I've definitely peaked through the settings on more than one occasion.
    4. Tried port forwarding for specific games, consoles, and etc. (UPNP is enabled)
    5. Ensured no downloads were in the background.
    6. Disabled whatever function that allows other PCs on the network to download updates with help from my PC via Windows 10 (probably described the wrong thing, but I cannot recall the setting. My apologies.)
    7. Checked for viruses and malware.
    8. Created reserved IP addresses for each console.
    9. Began addressing issues that could spur from the Killer Network suite installed (disabled bandwidth control and prevented the suite from running)
    10. Updated drivers


I have probably left out a few things, but honestly I have tried so many different things, I can't even remember what I have and haven't done at this point. Maybe the modem (being a modem, router combo) is somehow being affected by our router due to the proximity to one another? Maybe other systems are causing an interference? Maybe it is in fact the Killer Network suite? I just don't know anymore. Before I chalk it all up to be the horrendous service offered by Spectrum and switch to the fiber option through AT&T (probably going to do that anyways :p), I would like to confirm that isn't actually something on my end.

With that being said, any help or advice is greatly appreciated. It is also quite possible that I was on track with my own troubleshooting, but executed it poorly or entirely incorrect. So, if it is recommended that I backtrack to revisit something listed above, please do steer me in the correct direction. I know this was a rather lengthy post, but I wanted to provide as much detail towards the problem as I could. For those of you who do take the time to read such an exhausting post and attempt to help, seriously, thank you. Hopefully this issue can get resolved and save me from utter insanity.

Thank you again and have a great night/day!

(P.S. I hope I posted this thread in the correct location. I'm new to this site and this seemed like the best place to put this!)
 
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Network troubleshooting pretty much the same no matter the actual software having issues.

If you only had the pc having issues I would be blaming the killer software. That is the biggest piece of marketing crap I have ever seen and it causes massive issue. It is so bad that killer actually offers drivers without the killer feature. You have to actually replace the drivers in addition to removing the software suite.

Still since you have issues on your console machines it can't be just killer doing it. Now that is assuming you are not using your pc as a capture device for the consoles when you are streaming. That makes things much more complex. I know very little about the streaming software other than it is massively complex...
Network troubleshooting pretty much the same no matter the actual software having issues.

If you only had the pc having issues I would be blaming the killer software. That is the biggest piece of marketing crap I have ever seen and it causes massive issue. It is so bad that killer actually offers drivers without the killer feature. You have to actually replace the drivers in addition to removing the software suite.

Still since you have issues on your console machines it can't be just killer doing it. Now that is assuming you are not using your pc as a capture device for the consoles when you are streaming. That makes things much more complex. I know very little about the streaming software other than it is massively complex to get working right sometimes.

In any case..the standard method to find these issues is to run constant ping commands to multiple points in the network connection.

So run tracert to some common ip like 8.8.8.8. Make note of the ip in the trace, in particular you want hop 1 which is your router and hop 2 which should be the ISP first router. You now want to run continuous ping commands to these 2 ip as well as maybe 8.8.8.8. Best if you run it from a device you are not actually using, so if you are playing games on your pc use one of your consoles to run the ping.

If you see no issues on any of them you have to blame software on the pc or the game or maybe the ISP the game company is using.

If you see issue in hop1 then there is some issue with your router. The more common location is hop 2 which tends to be problems with the wiring to your house or maybe the modem but it is most often cabling outside your house. If it was time of day related then you could blame you neighbors for sharing bandwidth but you said it wasn't. If you see hop1 and hop 2 good but the 8.8.8.8 ip bad this means there is a issue farther into the ISP network. You can continue moving out hops and ping them to try to find it but these are hard to get fixed because they are internal to the isp or maybe other ISP and the first level techs you can call tend to be clueless on fixing anything like this.
 
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