Upgrading to replace A10-6800K with new AM3 mobo/processor

dan64bit

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I've had my MSI fm2-A55M-E33 board and A10-6800K for about 3 years now and am looking to upgrade, but am having issues deciding which route to take.

I just purchased a GTX 1050 Ti and want to get away from the Micro-ATX boards, but figure it would make sense to jump to something with an AM3 socket as I pretty much have the best option with FM2 and it's old anyway.

I've compared some (FX-8320 and FX-8350) with my current processor on CPUBoss.com, and it seems to think the A10 is the best choice, which I'm assuming is because of its low power draw and built-in GPU, which I no longer need obviously.

Thanks for any suggestions!
 
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On socket LGA 1151 (Intel's latest):

-A Pentium G4560 ($65) would be a small upgrade. It has similar multithreaded performance to your current CPU, but about 60-80% better single-threaded performance, so in some cases it would be a lot faster.

-An i5 7400, 7500 or 7600 would be about twice as fast in both metrics.

-An i7 7700 would be ~2.5-3x faster in multithreaded scenarios.

LGA 1151 CPUs need DDR4, so you'd need to replace your RAM too. RAM is cheap right now, and I would suggest doing that rather than buying an older platform that still uses DDR3, but if you'd like that option you might consider buying Intel's socket 1150. On there, you have the i5 4xxx and i7 4xxx CPUs, which would still be a nice improvement. The major issue...
Just so you know, AM3(+) is an older socket. The FX CPUs were released a year before your current CPU. You'll have more cores, but those cores will individually be slower than the ones you already have. I recommend strongly against "upgrading" to a CPU released in 2012, in 2017.
 

maxalge

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am3 is dead, fm2 is newer


wait for ryzen or get an intel setup
 

dan64bit

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Ah, that makes a lot more sense. Don't know why I didn't realize that. As far as looking at Intel chips, do you have any suggestions for a reasonable upgrade from my current setup that would go well with a GTX 1050 Ti?
 
On socket LGA 1151 (Intel's latest):

-A Pentium G4560 ($65) would be a small upgrade. It has similar multithreaded performance to your current CPU, but about 60-80% better single-threaded performance, so in some cases it would be a lot faster.

-An i5 7400, 7500 or 7600 would be about twice as fast in both metrics.

-An i7 7700 would be ~2.5-3x faster in multithreaded scenarios.

LGA 1151 CPUs need DDR4, so you'd need to replace your RAM too. RAM is cheap right now, and I would suggest doing that rather than buying an older platform that still uses DDR3, but if you'd like that option you might consider buying Intel's socket 1150. On there, you have the i5 4xxx and i7 4xxx CPUs, which would still be a nice improvement. The major issue here is that they're discontinued and you're pretty much forced to go to eBay to get them.
 
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dan64bit

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Thank you so much! I will definitely look into LGA 1151 setup.
 
This would be a good mid-priced combo:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $272.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-26 18:59 EST-0500

Pair it with 2x 4GB or 2x 8GB of DDR4 2133 or 2400 and you're good to go.

EDIT: You mention wanting to get away from mATX. What in particular are you looking to get away from in it?
 

breek

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Hey Dan. What's your price point? There are a few options. I can't blame you if you don't wait for AMD Ryzen since I upgraded from my FX 8320 to an i5 6400 literally last week. If you can wait, I would. If you're impatient like me, you've got options now. As it's been stated, AMD has nothing to offer you now. I've had the unfortunate experience of wasting my money on AMD* but because of that I can shed some light here.

*I build my computer in 2012 with a $1000 CAD budget. This left me with an Fx 4300, GTX 660, 1TB Seagate Barracuda (don't do it), and 2x4gb of GSkill ram, and the rest of the build. I "upgraded" (mimicking the above pov) my FX 4300 to an FX 8320. I had no idea how wrong of a decision that was until I noticed almost no improvement to gaming. The FX 8000 series has it's place for productivity, but for gaming it makes absolutely no sense. A lot of people recommend the FX 6300 for a budget build, but even that is misguided. Without continuing this tangent, just know I have gone down the AM3+ path and learned my lesson.

If you don't want to wait for Ryzen, I would recommend you moving to Skylake. You can do what I did and grab an i5 6400 and Z170 motherboard that will let you overclock it (BIOS flash required, very simple). http://overclocking.guide/category/intel-oc-guides/skylake-non-k-oc/ Check through these for a motherboard you'd like. I settled on the Gigabyte Z170x Gaming 3. It has everything I need, including proper heatsinks for the CPU MOSFETs. It doesn't break the bank either.

This method of overclocking is very simple, only effects your CPU and Ram, as opposed to PCIe and sata, etc. This means your computer will stay stable at high BCLK overclock levels. Also, this only works for SKYLAKE CPUs; turning any non-k CPU into an overclocking monster. My i5 6400 is currently at 3.9Ghz (stock 2.7Ghz) and if I spent more than 10 minutes in the BIOS I'm sure I could get that higher; aiming for 4.5Ghz.
The same can be done with i3s if your budget doesn't allow for an i5.

I would highly recommend getting an i5 so you have four cores (w/o hyperthreading) as opposed to an i3 with 2 cores (w/ hyperthreading). Either way, you will see large performance gains in pretty much every game, day to day use, and productivity. You're in a great position to upgrade to Skylake and will notice huge improvements for your cash. I would highly-highly recommend getting a z170 mobo, non-k cpu, and overclocking it like hell. You will have to spend a few extra bucks on a cooler (Cryorig or Cooler Master have very good options for cheap prices).

Let us know if you have a budget and a list of components you will need (remember, upgrading a cpu means new mobo, ram and OS as well).

Best of luck!