Part 2: VGA led constantly on with ASUS z270f new build - help!

rednashm · Jan 30, 2017

*****This is me reporting back since last time posting, the other post went something like this. Big difference now is that it's a new motherboard, and it's a new set of RAM sticks - which makes it all the more tough. No change since changing the parts even running through all the steps.*****

So I am about to give up on everything with this NEW build that seems to just quit on me.

So I decided to built a new PC around the holidays, and had been lurking multiple forums for 2 months prior to it. I felt I had a good built going, but was surprised to learn that I didn't. I have a list of problems, and I will go through them one-by-one as well as the solutions that I have tried.

My rig:
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FpkpVY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FpkpVY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer 240 74.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270F ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Full Tower Case
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 FLX 68.0 CFM 140mm Fan
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 FLX 68.0 CFM 140mm Fan
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F140SP_BK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F140SP_BK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan
Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor
Monitor: AOC G2460VQ6 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor

So, let's go straight to the problem.

I have successfully installed everything, and at the beginning had luck booting into a BIOS. I will not bore you with the problem I used to face, ranging from BSOD (WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR etc) to difficulties with installing my OS.

Right now I am facing a problem that seems to be recurring for many. When I boot, I get 2 beeps (with or without an external speaker inserted, so I am assuming the motherboard has one built in). Based on the manual, it says I have to flash my BIOS by inserting my support disc (CrashFree - Asus calls it - has not worked) and my onboard LED's light in this exact order.

- CPU led for a split second
- DRAM led for 2-5 seconds
- VGA led constantly

and a permanent black screen is left for me.

This is what I have tried:

- Resetting CMOS (both by inserting jumpercap onto the 2-pin, and also removing the mobo battery (for a short and long period of time)
- Removing power cable, and holding the power button for 1-2 minutes.
- Reassuring every cable is tightly fit, and that every thing is connected.
- Tried unplugging every SATA and peripheral cable to ensure the CPU or PSU isn't overloaded.
- Tried going with both my GFX as well as the onboard graphics with all of the methods above being tried as well. Tried DVI, HDMI, DP on 2 different monitors - no results. I have tried with the graphics card in all of the slots.
- Tried both RAM sticks, individually in all slots each and together in both configurations.
- Checked under the CPU to see if any pins were bent - none were.
- Made sure every fan as well as the HS worked properly.

I will provide pictures if need be, and any and all assistance I can get is greatly appreciated. I am at a somewhat desperate state of mind right now. My last resort is to send it to service center, which I fear won't yield very much.

Additional info:
The Kingston SSD was ported from an old built and is therefore used. The GTX 1070 is 4 months old. Anything else as far as hardware-components go are brand new.

This will be posted on other forums as well. I appreciate all the help you can provide.

junkeymonkey · Jan 30, 2017

I don't see insure the pci-e slots are on maybe the bios is set for onboard [cpu graphics]

starting on page 41

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''Right now I am facing a problem that seems to be recurring for many. When I boot, I get 2 beeps (with or without an external speaker inserted, so I am assuming the motherboard has one built in). Based on the manual, it says I have to flash my BIOS by inserting my support disc ''

seems crazy seeing that board only has one bios new release so far ??

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-Z270F-GAMING/HelpDesk_Download/

if you don't all ready have it straight from the factory then try it causr the CPU list shows 0604 ????

sad thing is things as this is why my last 3 asus was my ''LAST'' red light specials or all ways something everyday my sabertooth lasted 3 months and in the trash after like 21 bios updates for ''system stability'' , what a joke

rednashm · Jan 30, 2017

junkeymonkey :

Seeing as this is the first boot with the new (replaced) motherboard, I assume the BIOS is set to factory (including the version). If it is set for onboard, wouldn't it then show up on screen when connected to onboard and having the GPU not-connected? Vice-versa if it's set for PCI-e slot.

I can't change anything in the BIOS, since I get no signal on any monitor with any video output.
Thanks for the input!

junkeymonkey · Jan 30, 2017

thing is that's a new released board and not much to go by from end users on issus or bugs yet ??

one thing for sure these newer cards you see a lot of that no signal or black screen with them lot of posts on that just here at toms

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/all.html?refine=no+signal+to+monitor

looks like you covered a lot of things to trouble shoot

when you cleared / reset cmos did you try to first remove the card then do that then reseat the card back ???? that may trigger something ???

can you hook the monitor to the motherboard to see if the onboard will auto detect that and then give you a display [[should auto detect card or on board ] that should at least get you to bios screen if nothing else [may need to remove the card from the slot to do that ?? ]

rednashm · Jan 30, 2017

junkeymonkey :

I understand that, and it makes it all the more troubling for me.

In a sense, I have done that. I have reset CMOS both with GPU inserted and without it - just to be sure.
Do you mean hook it to motherboard from GPU (with it inserted) while it is turned on?

junkeymonkey · Jan 30, 2017

to try to display just remove the card and use the motherboards graphics [onboard /on cpu graphics] hook the 1080p monitor to the motherboards dvi- or hdmi what ever cable your using

if that's working as it should you should display and access the bios

[ turn off and swap from card use to motherboard graphics re boot ]

turn computer off un hook and remove the card and hook monitor back here on the motherboards ports reboot and should display

https://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2017/01/asus-rog-strix-z270f-gaming-review/asus-strix-z270f-gaming-8x-1920x1080.jpg

rednashm · Jan 30, 2017

junkeymonkey :

I am not sure if I was unclear in my original post, but that has been tried with 2 seperat monitors on all video outputs - no signal at all. The POST still remains the same. Is that what you mean? I connected to onboard without GPU inserted and to GPU when it is.

junkeymonkey · Jan 30, 2017

ok so weather you use the card or the motherboard same results = no display ?? hmmmmm....... that off the motherboard should be near failsafe and work default .. should be the samt from a card but if the card or psu was bad then no

so no display from the card and no display from motherboard as well ?????

maybe a long shot but remove the old harddrive that your trying to reuse and reset the bios [clear cmos ] and retry with out it ?? you don't need a harddrive to post in to bios at all

you said this '''I have successfully installed everything, and at the beginning had luck booting into a BIOS. I will not bore you with the problem I used to face, ranging from BSOD (WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR etc) to difficulties with installing my OS. ''

that maybe faulty hardware and throwing up issues ?? try that then remove all memory sticks but one in its single stick slot use [check manual ]

so try first with out the harddrive test - then with out the hard drive and one stick of memory test ..

junkeymonkey · Jan 30, 2017

one thing that bothers me somewhat is like these asus board like yours at newegg how reviews were removed

like from here it can show a board has 6 reviews but then you open that page and theres only one showen ??

like this one says it has 5 but theres none on the product page for a example ??? [ASUS PRIME Z270-A LGA1151 DDR4 DP HDMI DVI M.2 USB 3.1 Z270 ATX Motherboard]

shows 5

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627 601276224 50001315&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=REVIEWS&PageSize=36

but here no reviews ??

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G57D8559

are they hiding something ??? several like that

rednashm · Jan 30, 2017

junkeymonkey :

I'm trying everything right now without any SATA connections - so no hard drive or SSD, therefore no OS. My goal right now is to get a signal on the monitor, the only used parts are the GPU and one of the SSD's - everything else is new. I have tried every RAM configuration, so both single and dual with or without GPU in any RAM slot(s).

junkeymonkey · Jan 30, 2017

????? well with all that you all ready done and tried if it displayed off the motherboard and not the card then I would say maybe PSU -card ?

you don't need any harddrive or OS to display it will display to bios screen with out all that default

now lets look at this thing you said

''Based on the manual, it says I have to flash my BIOS by inserting my support disc (CrashFree - Asus calls it - has not worked) and my onboard LED's light in this exact order.''

unless it was in some way a unsupported or corrupt bios I cant see why it would error to that ?? unless maybe your memory is just not compatible with that or any bios released yet ?? that was a issue with 170 boards and a lot of memory just may not work out too well ??? then you would think the memory led would lite up as well and stay on like the vga led is ..

I don't know what now to say ? maybe if you don't have that latest bios listed all ready on the board may need to flash to it [bios 0701]

with out any display that's not a easy trick to try to do unless asus got a flash tool that will do it with out seeing anything ??? [big risk I would guess]

lest see if some one else will post here with some better options . may just have a lemon board in the end

check this out [asus]

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3318269/signal-bios-update-z170-pro-gaming.html

rednashm · Jan 30, 2017

junkeymonkey :

I really appreciate your effort, but again, the beep might or might not mean anything.
https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1029959/

It would be weird if it came out-of-the-box with a faulty BIOS - never has that occurred, and it didn't on the first boot of my former motherboard, which was the same model, it happened later on with that.

I thoroughly made sure all parts were compatible, the RAM is listed on their official support site for the product as being compatible.
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/STRIX_Z270F_GAMING/STRIX-Z270F-GAMING_memory_QVL.pdf

I hope someone will help me, though - I'm at a pretty desperate point.

junkeymonkey · Jan 30, 2017

''It would be weird if it came out-of-the-box with a faulty BIOS '' not these days a lot of junk out there

seems like asus there more worried about hype / gimmicks and fancy dust covers and led lighting then support or quality .
like I said my last 3 asus were a joke one I crap canned in less then 3 months it was just that bad , but that's not to say this cant happen with any brand , but then funny, the brands I used to replace the asus's worked first boot fine and dandy to this day with all the parts pulled off the asus's ?????

its to the point I don't upgrade or replace or rebuild anything unless I have no choice but to [100% died]

maybe contact asus support and hook up with there tech ???

rednashm · Jan 30, 2017

junkeymonkey :

Since the motherboard performs identically to the former one, I'd say the motherboard wasn't at fault. Since this is related to both GPU- and iGPU perfomance, can this be attributed to a CPU that's not performing correctly?

junkeymonkey · Jan 30, 2017

well maybe a psu issue ? I would look at anything you reused part wise as well

like I said faulty hardware can be the cause of this ''WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR etc)''

I was looking at a review of your PSU and sen this said ''That's right folks, the factory forgot to install a wee jumper right between the ATX cable connectors. This jumper carries the 5V output to the larger of the two ATX cable connectors. Let me just de-solder this here ground wire on the back of the board, and I'll toss a piece of resistor lead in there as a jumper. ''

''And there we go - all done. I'll just put that ground wire back, throw the unit back together, and see if we have all wires working.

And yes. The Extech says it's all good, now. So, if you're good at soldering and don't mind voiding your warranty, you too can now get those last two 5V wires working.

thing is what else do they turn a blind eye to under any quality control ???? WOW sad and sloppy

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=363

''can this be attributed to a CPU that's not performing correctly'' can be ?

now I also seen a few / several guys with the older skylake CPU's like the 6700 [6 series] have issues and jumped through hoops and finialy RMAed the cpu back to intel and with the new replacement cpu all worked fine ???

so if your reuseing that same CPU may need to look in to that ??

I been there with my asus I replaced 2 cards 3 memory kits 3 cpu s 2 harddrives fire it up and bam right back to the same old junked the asus board and alls good same parts .. $$$$$ that's what asus cost me sure was not running it enjoyably no fun at all , headache

rednashm · Jan 30, 2017

junkeymonkey :

I'd feel very uncomfortable attempting what he did with the PSU, and since everything seems to be receiving power, how can it be a PSU failure, when the signal to monitor doesn't work? I'm only curious.

For the record, I'm not reusing any parts that I'm using right now, everything is brand new, even the products. The i7 7700k as well as the z270f was globally released no more than 3-4 weeks ago.

All I can think is that it is the CPU - but then again that's the same rationale I used with the motherboard and RAM and look at where I am now - stuck with the same problem. The WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR is not really the matter at hand - although I hope as this gets fixed, so would that - seeing as I have no OS to boot into.

junkeymonkey · Jan 30, 2017

did not mean for you to do it just as a example of what I seen form it and that model

''. The i7 7700k as well as the z270f was globally released no more than 3-4 weeks ago.

well with that your pretty much the guinny pig tester when you buy in to just released for we know that platform maybe a disaster over all or may end up a bad motherboard line you bought untried and unproven off just sales hype on it

I would think if you get the same issue with this new build as you did with the old build kinda figures it a part your reusing ? even mouse or keyboard or any device or something

I was all most sure if you reused one of them SSD that was it , but ???

I kinda thought some one else would of chimed in here but you all ready coverd a lot of things

this here is something I don't like as I said almost like it worked the first time you booted as you said and then some how the bios got corrupted if its now asking for that ??

''Right now I am facing a problem that seems to be recurring for many. When I boot, I get 2 beeps (with or without an external speaker inserted, so I am assuming the motherboard has one built in). Based on the manual, it says I have to flash my BIOS by inserting my support disc (CrashFree - Asus calls it - has not worked) and my onboard LED's light in this exact order.''

so far all your listed hardware looks to be good supported with out any bios issues at default if nothing else ???? then that no display weather you use a card or off the motherboard ????

you don't thing something is shorting out on your case some how maybe try to breadboard it out of the case to see ???

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/296400-31-breadboarding

like here as I said you see a lot of skylake having memory issues ??

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3318341/asus-strix-z270e-tridentz-rgb-2x8gb-3200mhz-stuck-2133mhz.html

then add win 10 on top of all that skylake mess ??? then I see you use a usb install ?? to me all ways get the disk retail copy of windows

rednashm · Jan 31, 2017

junkeymonkey :

did not mean for you to do it just as a example of what I seen form it and that model

''. The i7 7700k as well as the z270f was globally released no more than 3-4 weeks ago.

well with that your pretty much the guinny pig tester when you buy in to just released for we know that platform maybe a disaster over all or may end up a bad motherboard line you bought untried and unproven off just sales hype on it

I would think if you get the same issue with this new build as you did with the old build kinda figures it a part your reusing ? even mouse or keyboard or any device or something

I was all most sure if you reused one of them SSD that was it , but ???

I kinda thought some one else would of chimed in here but you all ready coverd a lot of things

this here is something I don't like as I said almost like it worked the first time you booted as you said and then some how the bios got corrupted if its now asking for that ??

''Right now I am facing a problem that seems to be recurring for many. When I boot, I get 2 beeps (with or without an external speaker inserted, so I am assuming the motherboard has one built in). Based on the manual, it says I have to flash my BIOS by inserting my support disc (CrashFree - Asus calls it - has not worked) and my onboard LED's light in this exact order.''

so far all your listed hardware looks to be good supported with out any bios issues at default if nothing else ???? then that no display weather you use a card or off the motherboard ????

you don't thing something is shorting out on your case some how maybe try to breadboard it out of the case to see ???

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/296400-31-breadboarding

like here as I said you see a lot of skylake having memory issues ??

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3318341/asus-strix-z270e-tridentz-rgb-2x8gb-3200mhz-stuck-2133mhz.html

then add win 10 on top of all that skylake mess ??? then I see you use a usb install ?? to me all ways get the disk retail copy of windows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmmftS882Hw In case you wanted a video showcasing the problem.

junkeymonkey · Jan 31, 2017

what about the bigg a$$ CPU cooler ?? did you tru to see if its mounted wrong or shorting something on the backplate ? maybe too tight and warping the board in a bad way ??

I see where then coolers can do this most time cause memory slot issues and then skylake cpu lids are thin and weak and can get bent easy

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/Intel-Skylake-Processors-Can-Bend-Under-Pressure-Damage-CPU-and-LGA-Socket

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3182547/bent-skylake-build-nightmare.html

msi put a brace on some of there boards
http://techreport.com/news/29449/msi-cpu-guard-bracket-could-protect-skylake-cpus-from-bending

your vid was kinda dark and could not se to well of the goings on

you may just need to pull it all back down and start from scratch and carefully inspect everything as you go back with it all ?

then I guess you then can check for any bent pins in the socket

example
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2961536/bent-lga-1151-socket-pins-advice-photo-included.html

Marc69 · Feb 2, 2017

Hello,

I have exactly the same motherboard (ASUS Z270F) & CPU (Core i7 7700K). When I install Windows 10, afer the first reboot, I have the same error as you : WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR. How did you manage to fix this error.
I'm changed the SSD, the RAM, the motherboard with still the same error when I try to install windows 10 : WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR.

Thanks

Part 2: VGA led constantly on with ASUS z270f new build - help!

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