Fps drops on more inensive games

Mochilla · Feb 2, 2017

Hi guys I have recently been encoutring some fps drops in games and relised that my GPU usage suffers major downwards spike. I took it to my local pc shop and they said it was the hard drive. I had them replaced and only played games such as CSGO that are not too GPU heavy for 2 weeks after I got the PC back. Now comming onto games such as GTA V and The Division, I can play for a short while before my lags/GPU usage drops.I have looked at both my GPU and CPU temperatures and my CPU doesn't exceed 45 degress under load and the GPU doesn't go above 66. I very much doubt their are hard drive problems as it literally 2 weeks old. ON top of this I was curious about the PSU and looked at it when these probelms were occuring so from what I could tell It isn't that. I also use windows 10 to check the ram and possobility of corrputed memory, thes came back negative. This is very fustrating to see as it came out of no where and was fine arround 2 months ago. Any advice will be helpful to me and i am willing to try anything out that is whithin reason. Finally i would like to say as the lag starts this transfers over to the OS and it starts to run slow. I have to shut it down to get it back to normal.

Specs
I5 660k
H100i GTX
GTX 780
MSI m3
16 gb ram
Windows 10

I3lue1 · Feb 3, 2017

Is your hard more than 80% full? Is it heavily fragmented?

What do you mean when you say "GPU usage drops"? This could mean a bottleneck somewhere on the motherboard and the motherboard is falling behind with the task; hence everything stutters. Is your motherboard fully compatible with your GPU (does its chipset fully support your GPU and CPU)? Do you have the latest BIOS?

You said that it started 2 months ago? What did you change then? Did you install new drivers or something? (I'm thinking about my first HDD questions again)

Edit: what's your motherboard model exactly?

Mochilla · Feb 3, 2017

I3lue1 :

Neither of them are full. I am not sure about fragmented the motherboard exactly is z170a msi m3 BIOS is up to date. From what I recall nothing new being installed and plus the HDD and SSD were changed about a month later after the first fps drop occured

bystander · Feb 3, 2017

Is your CPU water cooled? For an air cooled system, 45C would indicate that it might not be reaching load clocks. You might want to check Windows power options, and set it to balanced or performance. AIO water cooling systems don't typically stay that cool either.

Mochilla · Feb 3, 2017

bystander :

Its water cooled and my i've now set my power to high preformace so ill give it a try

Mochilla · Feb 3, 2017

EDIT: I have now foudn that CPU usage is extereammly high on idle and also spikes to arround 100 when the search bar on windows 10 is clicked on. If this is any help for people.

bystander · Feb 3, 2017

That means you have something in the background stealing CPU time. Perhaps a mining program or virus.

Mochilla · Feb 3, 2017

bystander :

So Iam guessing at round 40 to 60 is quite a lot of cpu usage and it shouldn't be that much?

I3lue1 · Feb 3, 2017

I have 4% cpu usage and I have ~ 20 Chrome tabs open, Skype, and Steam. Check the processes in task manager, find the culprit and then Google around on how to remove it.

Mochilla · Feb 3, 2017

I3lue1 :

Any ideas l what I might be looking for within the taskmanager I really don'the have a clue

bystander · Feb 3, 2017

Open up the Processes tab, and look for the application(s) that have high usage.

I3lue1 · Feb 3, 2017

Anything suspicious that doesn't have a signature:
https://postimg.org/image/7avn0mcjh/

As you can see in this picture, most of my tasks have a "User" and a "Description" associated with them. The few that remain without a user and/ or description that use up more than 5-9% of your CPU should be checked. These applications/ services may be viruses but they also may be Windows services that got a little buggy after an update/ unexpected reset/ etc.

Mochilla · Feb 3, 2017

bystander :

I don't know really what's happening here as msi after burner is showing the high usage but the task manager cpu usage isnt

I3lue1 · Feb 3, 2017

I don't understand what you're saying. Go to the link where I posted a screenshot and post a screenshot with your afterburner and your task manager with the highest CPU usage tasks (you can order the table based on CPU usage if you click on the CPU column); this should shed some light on things.

Mochilla · Feb 3, 2017

I3lue1 :

I'll have to get back to you on this I got some things to do but thanks for all the help so far. I will post back here tomorrow

Mochilla · Feb 4, 2017

I3lue1 :

http://prnt.sc/e4bu7c From the screen shot you can see that the cpu for some reason is clocking at 0.74 and stays their until restart any ideas now? And Iam 90% sure that's it's not thermal throttling

bystander · Feb 4, 2017

You might want to check your Windows Power settings, and make sure it is balanced or try performance. Just know that performance mode will likely make it stay at max clock speed most the time, even when mostly idle.

Mochilla · Feb 4, 2017

bystander :

Already is

bystander · Feb 4, 2017

So how is it that you have high idle usage, yet can't see any usage in the Task manager? If that is true, check for a virus.

Mochilla · Feb 4, 2017

bystander :

Ive run it though malwarebites and avg. Also I was more concerned about the down clock really

I3lue1 · Feb 6, 2017

That "high usage" is relative. Your CPU is currently clocked at ~0.75 Ghz, which is ~4.66x lower than its normal clock.

A 100% usage at 0.74 GHz is actually a 20% usage at 3.5 GHz, which isn't so alarming to be honest. So you're right about the issue actually being your underclock.

Possible causes: a virus/ faulty application; faulty power management; some thermal issues/ misconfigurations; some really big voltage fluctuations; something regarding the motherboard.

This is the first time I see such a thing, so please keep us posted with the issue; I'm curious how this unfolds

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Mochilla · Feb 6, 2017

I3lue1 :

Hi guy's i've found my soloution. Their is a fault on the z170a boards that msi are aware of that seems to clock you down to 0.8ghz. I switched a setting within the BIOS and it nows seems fine after a day of solid use. The Article if you are interseted https://service.msicomputer.com/msi_user/support/TechFAQdetail.aspx?formid=3265

I3lue1 · Feb 8, 2017

Thank you very much for posting back! This will be a good reference for people that might have the same problem in the future.

Since you posted the actual answer, you deserve the solution tag.

Good luck and have fun with your "unchained" CPU!

Mochilla · Feb 8, 2017

I3lue1 :

Thanks a lot for everyone's help. I'll sort out the solution soon. But for any one looking msi can more than likely help you out too

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