Planning to Upgrade PC for gtx 1070 and switch to Intel. Need recommendations for MOBO and CPU and anything else.

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I plan on buying what I need over the next 2-3 months. Maybe less depending in recommendations.

Budget for MOBO and CPU is around 375-400. Not too concerned about going over since I won't be buying everything at once. Right now i'm torn between going i5 to save money or i7 to be more up to date and not have to upgrade sooner down the line. I think the latter would be better but I'd like to save a lil money where I can so this build upgrade doesn't take too long to complete.




PC is used mainly for gaming. I want overclocking options too. SLI too. Gameplay recording and streaming is not a must have but would still be nice. My goal is to be able to play the newest game on highest settings. Not interested in VR or multi monitor setup for now.

Monitor is Dell ST2220L. Res: 1920x1080.

Specs:

CASE: X-Titan 200 black full tower

Windows 10 OS

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P AM3+ (rev.1)

CPU: AMD FX-6300

CPU FAN: ASETEK 510LC 120mm water cooler

GPU: EVGA 960 4gb SC

RAM: x2 4gb ddr3 (8gb) 1600 mhz

PSU: EVGA 430W

HD: 1tb SATA III 7200 rpm 3.5"

CASE FAN: 1x 120mm fan



I know I'll need a better PSU first and probably ddr4 ram later on. I just dont know what order I should get the other components. Should I gather all the hardware and install them all at once or could I upgrade gradually.

I'll probably be purchasing thru Amazon since i'm a Prime member.

If I failed to mention anything else, please let me know.




























 
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thats basically what i selected, since nothing has been released for zen/AM4 platform yet, WAIT...
wait until we see prices for lower tier zen cpus.

ryzen will have a 4C/8T cpu for sub 180$, and performance comparable to i7..
board will be 150-200 for something really nice, maybe less.

for cooler, use the stock one until till arctic updates their lineup to include AM4 mounts.
get the Liquid freezer 240 later, when you start ocing (doubt you will have the need for it right away, as cpu is fast enough).

i update the list, went with a 1070, this will allow for maxed 1080p/1440p gaming without trouble...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yzkkyf
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First: wait until ryzen is out.
even if you dont want an amd, intel will have to drop prices.

i would recommend upgrading to a 1440p moni, as it would not only would be more fun to game on a larger screen (im now running asus 32"/1440p/10bit color/flicker free i got for 400$ on A), but also remove possible (cpu) bottlenecking (besides some exceptions).

i would get a completely new rig, but you can use the "old" one until the new one is finished.
sell it after that, or maybe "donate" to a family member/local church/school.

might wanna use the stock cooler (if you buy a zen cpu) to replace the asetek LC, since they are prone to pump failure.

let me put something together, ill post link..
 
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I disagree with Intel having to drop prices. Historically, they don't.

I agree that you should go with a new build as you can't "buy DDR4 later". That said the only things you could upgrade gradually would be your PSU, and GPU as you could take them to a new build.

Take the time as you wait to see what Ryzen actually can do to save and when ready, buy all the things you need and do it all at once.

Give us a budget and someone can help you with a build.
 
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Much appreciated. Hopefully Corwin65 read this too but why is a whole new build more beneficial than replacing parts?
I do like the idea of upgrading my gpu and psu for now but my only concern is I've heard my cpu will bottleneck the card. Is the bottleneck negligible. As of now I'd say my most demanding games are Witcher 3, Titanfall2, Dark Souls 3 and Total War: Warhammer. As for a budget, saving large amounts hasn't been my strong suite but It'd be good to exercise that skill. So without knowing to much would $900-1200 fit my needs?
 
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intel will have to drop prices, as amd will have a sub 800$ 8C/16T cpu that keeps up with intels 6900 (1000$).
and amd will support win 7 on ryzen, while intel's kabylake will not.

because most of the time its easier to sell the whole rig, than just the components.
if i would have to build one today, this would be it:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/svYHr7

but again, wait till ryzen is released and we see performance of the 4C/8T and 6/8C, which should be lots cheaper and also a bit more future proof (socket) than intel.

i prefer arctic cooling/EK LC stuff over any other brand, as they are not based on Asetek, which are prone to pump failure.

right now, asrock has the better quality on power/vrm stuff, while asus/msi still just go for "more" on the phase design.

16gb ram is enough for gaming, but i would set for 32gb as to have matching sticks, and no need to find another (exact) set down the road.

samsung has a pretty fast ssd for the money, use that to install the OS.
for storage/games i would get a large ocz. they have the best warranty on the market, as they will ship a replacement drive out for free and even cover return shipping for dead drive.

sli gets less and less support/optimized, so i would rather spend the money on the biggest single chip you can get, but a 1070 is enough for 1080p (maxed)
and 1440p (most games maxed out).
all cards will boost around the same, so dont waste money on higher clocked ones. the msi has the best cooling keeping chip/ram/vrm way cooler than
every other card i've seen FLIR pics under load.
use afterburner to set temp/power limits to max, and card will boost to around 2GHz.

im normally not a fan of bling/lights, but the large window makes the rig look more expensive.
maybe look at thermaltake's core/cube series, but i have used coolermaster/enermax/fractal design in the past, without any probs.

psu's are the most important part, as nothing works without it, and lots of stuff can get damaged from low quality ones.
names dont mean much, since most brands are not making the units themself.
platinum rated ones are normally good (no matter what brand), but i do prefer seasonic/corsair (ax, non i series).
even that the Ax series is made by seasonic, all test show the corsairs are on the "newer" platform and are a bit better performing (vs the SS one).
check with a microcenter around you, lots will carry a refurb one for around 100$ less than the seasonic/new one.

 
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Your seriously starting this guy out with a $2000 build. You are acting like the statements above about Ryzen are facts. Everything is speculation at this point. Anything can happen. To know the truth you have to wait for official announcements. Until then I would say wait and see your options since you have a pc as of now to play on until then. But if you did not want to wait i would use a z270 Msi sli plus board with a intel 7600k. I advise waiting because its only few weeks away.
 
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@Farmageddon
as long as there is no max limit (and even if there is one), i will always recommend what would go best, and the buyer can decide what to drop/change etc.
in fact, almost all my builds going back to 2002 are still running, so at least i have picked reliable parts in the past.
i plan on rigs to run for 5-10y. if you dont, sure, go cheap.

and did you see the poster was interested in sli, which means at least two 1070 (1060 doesnt support it), and you wont run that for long, if connected to a cheap no name (bronze rated) psu.

maybe you havent payed attention to the amd events and info "leaked" so far, or the fact that intel all of a sudden talks about "risky market" or the release of i5/i7 with bumped clocks (a joke on unlocked K's anyway).
why would that be, if ryzen is such a bad product and wont be able to keep up with intel this time?
and even if slightly behind, no one will pay intel 30% more, to gain less than 10% on cpu performance...


besides that, we are here to give help/recommendations, but not really to tell someone what or what not to buy (unless "you're" paying for it).
even if it doesnt make sense to you, as the "perfect" part for "you", might not be the perfect part for everyone else..

e.g.
who would tell their 5y old daughter that all reviews show that the blue/silver/black bike is cheaper than the pink one,
while doing the same job?
no, you dont. you buy the pink one, and she's happy.
 
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UnknownKadath

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Thanks for looking out but no worries. The suggested build was a bit much but I dialed it back a bit without going barebones.
Not sure if im gonna need 760w PSU even with OC so I went 650w. Im set on the processor but still open to suggestions an explanations for mobo, cooler, PSU and ram to save few bucks. I don't really care for LEDs so i'm looking for mobo with quality parts and reasonable price.
 
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thats basically what i selected, since nothing has been released for zen/AM4 platform yet, WAIT...
wait until we see prices for lower tier zen cpus.

ryzen will have a 4C/8T cpu for sub 180$, and performance comparable to i7..
board will be 150-200 for something really nice, maybe less.

for cooler, use the stock one until till arctic updates their lineup to include AM4 mounts.
get the Liquid freezer 240 later, when you start ocing (doubt you will have the need for it right away, as cpu is fast enough).

i update the list, went with a 1070, this will allow for maxed 1080p/1440p gaming without trouble...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yzkkyf
 
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